Why does Wladimir never go to the body?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No one dimensional robot who can only fight one style of fight will becaome an ATG.
     
  2. It is that, theres no question.

    His problem is that he is programmed to doing things his way, its too late to change him now so its unlikely you'll ever see him throw a left hook to the liver.
     
  3. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Being a drop dead boring fighter might have something to do with it, who knows?
     
  4. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He throws some good body shots at Wach and Pianeta and in earlier fights.

    Some of you have to open the eyes before post.
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Did he need help in the Haye fight? :lol:
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Weaving to the left and right , hooking to the body doesn't leave you open to counters if you are a skilled inside fighter.
    Wlad's propblem is he cant fight or defend himself in close.

    Chisora was bombing Vitali to the ribs and if he was a heavy puncher Vitali would of been in a world of trouble and might of lost that fight. .

    Fury is skilled at throwing to the body and scored a nice one punch body ko against Rogan.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I saw one against Pianeta and zero against Wach.
     
  8. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali didn't have the power make the body punching effective IMO. You need to really swing it to make an impession with a body shot, a lot more than to get respect by a punch to the head.

    Wlad does have the power and the sklills to do it fairly safely and I think it would add a great deal to his game. He may not need that with Pianetas and Wachs of this world but as he is - he's really robotic.. Robotic and resistant to adjustment to the point where I can't consider him a great fighter. Someone like Lewis would have an easy night with him.

    To get the KO, yes.
     
  9. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do understand that when someone has their hands down luring you in, dropping your hands and going to the body would be about the dumbest thing possible to do right?
    Not only is Haye quick, he fights out of a crouch .... so you are expecting Wlad to drop his hands, and giveup both height and reach advantage.

    Honestly with your post count id expect you to know a bit better....

    Outside of that i completely agree Wlad should be going to the body way more, there are plenty of fights where he could have.
    Vs Wach, vs Pianeta and even vs Thompson (although he did but sparingly) heck vs Chambers too seeing as he remained stationary with his hands up quite a few times.

    Vs Haye would have been the absolute worst idea ever though.
     
  10. Scar

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    Wladimir doesn't really care to get the KO, just look at how he fights. He's a tactical fighter, if you run into a shot then you get sparked, otherwise he won't bother to pursue the knockout. That said, David Haye wasn't exactly interested in fighting that night, he was throwing predictable single shots and cruising the hell away all night. That's not exactly an opponent/target you could pick your shots willingly against.
     
  11. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, that's it. He threw one against Pianeta and I was like 'wow, Wlad went to the body!"

    I think it is due to him playing it absolutely safe. He doesn't like taking any risks whatsoever, he'd rather win a boring decision than push for a KO. He just keeps thudding away with 1-2's and the odd left hook until the opponent can't take no more. When the opponent gets too close he clinches.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    Mayweather is 1000x the fighter Wlad is, but he don't even be getting tagged with ATG stauts, yet Wlad is already a top 15 ATG fighter? hahaha.
     
  13. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh yes he did in the Haye fight :lol: he wrote wrote "50" on his hand and pointed it to the Haye's head at the weigh in, said numerous times he's going to knock Haye out. I understand the way Haye fought had a lot to do with failing to do so but he could do more himself if he wasn't so overly scared of getting hit.
     
  14. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I totally understand why it's a dangerous thing to do against Haye. But Haye doesn't throw his bombs fighting of the ropes, does he? He needs some space to set them up. Do you really think that finishing a 1-2 combo with a left hook to the body (while leaning left and immediately getting back into position) when Haye is on the backfoot and has ropes behind his back, is that dangerous?

    Or simply shooting the straight right to the body instead of the head in 1-2's occasionally. Hardly any danger at all, don't you think?
     
  15. Yes, it was a pathetic performance against a man who couldn't put full power into his right hand. Wladimir was stiff as **** and put on a shameful performance. Haye was just as bad if not worse.