Why doesn’t Buster Douglas get a pass for the Holyfield loss?

Pugguy · Jan 1, 2024

Freddy Benson. said: ↑

Excellent post, and not just because we agree! Context, and not just with respect to boxing, is vital I would think. It puts things in proper perspective. Where it would most likely become trickier is the relative importance we each give to the various factors involved. Our interpretation on those will obviously differ. That can also be part of the fun of discussing things though - hearing and learning how other people view and assess these things. Hearing/reading them can better inform my opinions, though not always!

Apologies to Saintpat if I have misunderstood but it does read like why do some people not evaluate and critique fighters in the same way and critcise them as much as I do for certain performances. I still do not understand what 'a pass' means, as to me I think you just have to look at the whole picture. Am not sure how that equates to saying a loss does not count or count as much. From the opening post.

"Seems like anyone who wants to put an asterisk by the Tyson loss to Tokyo Douglas and the Duran loss to New Orleans Leonard would be sympathetic to Douglas and say that loss doesn’t count … or doesn’t count as much."

I suppose if we are talking about those fanboy nuts (and there are those on this forum) who excuse anything and everything about their favourite fighters then that might be an example of people giving a pass, but that's not the type of celebrity obsessive fans who should be the standard for anything.
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Cheers Freddy, not that mine was but that’s a great post yourself - and correct, not just because we agree - but hey, it helps that we do agree - haha - just kidding re that last comment.

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Why doesn’t Buster Douglas get a pass for the Holyfield loss?

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