Why Doesn't Anyone Pick Camacho against Mayweather @130lbs?

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I'd take Floyd to beat Armstrong likely, due to Armstrong's lack of footspeed, though Armstrong's pressure and relentlessness would start to take more effect in the later rounds.

    How much young Camacho have you seen? Not talking about the post-Rosario, or rather the 140 and up version that became a runner and holder, but the young, super fast, combo throwing version that shut out Ramirez, blitzkreig'd Limon, etc.
     
  2. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I hear you on Camacho, but I really never liked his style. I know he was good, I respect him. But I think Floyd wins the power exchange if they fight. Camacho would do a thousand laps at least. Armgstrong would wear Floyd out because he landed BOMBS and never stopped throwing them.
     
  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    This is why he asked you which Camacho you had seen. If you think of him in this way, your not familiar with the 130lb Camacho.
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    He'd be doing laps vs floyd because Floyd would get the better of the exchanges. What can I say aside from I NEVER was a Camacho fan. Dont worry though, I'd root for Camacho, a fight i'd very much like to see but my feelings are what they are on the outcome.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I bet Gamboa turns out to be a better 130 pounder than Joy Boy and I also bet he will fight the best out there and duck nobody, already challenging Pac, heart of a spartan warrior and the eyes of a starving lion.
     
  6. Spitbucket

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    Camacho was better than any opponent FLoyd faced at 130.

    When you think about it, a past-prime DLH aside, Hector Camacho whould have been the best opponent on Floyd's resume.:think
     
  7. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude looks like a ***.
     
  8. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i flat out hated the cocky little *******, but personal feelings aside, the talent and skills that camacho displayed at 130 were sick. he does not do laps against mayweather, and pbf does not beat him in the exchanges. hectors handspeed was ridiculous. and he did not throw fluff flurries. there was substance to them. his supernatural speed allowed him to make some technical mistakes, and still be able to get away with it. hector was not a runner by any stretch of the imagination at 130. he was the baddest sum ***** in the division, and he proved it. with the exception of possibly being a smarter fighter, pbf holds no advantages over camacho at 130 add to that the fact that hector was a southpaw. he is a nightmare for pbf. too unorthodox for pbf to figure out in time to pull out a decision. i see camacho with a clear cut decision. at 130 floyd wins at every other division.

    now i have to take a shower, i feel dirty after writing positive things about that *****.
     
  9. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I hear the points. But I feel how I feel. Floyd had better power at 130 and Camacho would be forced to move.

    Hey I'm rooting with ya!! I dont like every prediction I make:nono Sometimes I wish to be wrong:yep

    Allright I'll say Floyd wins 114-113 or 115-112, K?:D

    I still say Armstrong is the man! Its 15, cuz Armstrong dont know nothin about no 12:happy

    My emoticons are back?? Someone stop playing the twilight zone music!!:rofl
     
  10. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    IMO Camacho's speed would have offset almost all of Mayweather's game, I just don't see it. Floyd to this day hasn't faced a fighter as talented as Camacho. We never got to see Floyd up against any super talented fighters. I agree with that this other guy said, Camacho would have been Floyd's best fighter on his resume. How would Floyd handle a southpaw with 2-3x the hand speed that hes ever seen before?

    The way I see it...Absurd high output lighting hand speed > low output precise counter punching.
     
  11. Spitbucket

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    Chavez, Trinidad and Hoya couldn't stop Camacho, but Floyd would have:think
     
  12. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    What the **** kind of hand speed does Zab Judah have? Judah's over all punching ability is average at best. He is a very very fast one or two shot puncher(great counter left), but Zab is gun shy as **** and he doesn't let his hands go. Comparing Judah to Camacho is silly as hell, Judah doesn't compare to Camacho in anything other than one punch speed, other than that they're not comparable...Completely different fighters! Camacho's hand speed was like a southpaw version of Oscar De La Hoya on crack...please don't bring Judah when trying to gauge Floyd's ability to dealing with some of the best speed ever in Camacho. :patsch
     
  13. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    What the **** kind of evidence from Hector Camacho's career would allow you to jump to a prediction like that!?:patsch
     
  14. Spitbucket

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    Exactly how much of a pressure fighter do you consider Floyd to be:think
     
  15. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Bull****, and you know it.

    Mammoth power... please. :-(

    I seriously doubt you have seen all of the tapes either. Tell me about his fight with Limon, if you don't mind.

    And what the **** does "that era of boxer" mean? The 80's? I guess he has no problem with Hearns, Haggler, or Leonard either. :lol: