Why doesn't B-Hop want any part of Dawson?

He took Pavlik because he saw what alot of people saw, that he was too green, one dimensional and was very predictable. He knew he could look good against him.

Now he thinks he sees the same **** in Adamek, but Adamek isnt mentally fragile and he has alot more adaptability than Pavlik, and i think he is picking on the wrong White boy:admin.

As to the thread Dawson can fight both forwards and backwards, has a high workrate and power to keep Hopkins wary. Plus he knows there is a distinct possibility that he would lose.

 

Why should Hops fight Dawson? Dawson isn't a big enough name and beating him isn't going to do much for his legacy... He needs to accomplish alot more before sharing the ring with Hopkins... Adamek on the other hand has a much bigger fanbase which puts more asses in the seats and is the true CW champion.... A fight with him makes much more sense... **** dawson...

 

Marketability. i remember b-Hop never want a fight with winky wright after winky just dominated tito. it's about money.

 

It's like bigbone said, dawson doesn't have any name recognition, and Hopkins already beat Tarver more convincingly than Dawson has done, and Dawson is on his way to fighting Tarver again . . . In a couple years Dawson would have a big enough name if he keeps winning, but at this point, it's just doesn't make business sense, hopkins HAS to fight someone with a big name, otherwise it's like he's fighting for free, it'd be like Mayweather coming back from retirement to fight a paper champ at 147, because the real champ at 175 is Calzaghe, and even if he beat Dawson, Calzaghe would still be considered #1 at lhw

 

Yup, the same way Calzaghe does, that's why his ***** ass retired.

 

Who else can he fight?

No one with a big name at 175 (except Calzaghe) . . . and no one with a big name at cruiser (except Adamek) . . . he could go up to Heavyweight . . . to fight for Valuev's belt??? It's either Calzaghe or Adamek, there is no one else, EXCEPT dawson, but dawson just doesn't bring anything to the table money wise

 

What? Lets not forget Dawson schooled Adamek. Bigger fanbase ill give you that but beating adamek is not on the same level as a win against dawson imo

 

But hopkins schooled tarver more convincing than Dawson did, so why should he waist his time? Plus Dawson had a controversial decision against Glen Johnson, people must of forgot about that.

 

Dawson's defense is too good and he's young. Hopkins could probably still beat the guy, but he probably doesn't wanna spend his time chasing some kid around the ring. It would make for an ugly, boring fight, and chances are Dawson would get the decision regardless of who landed the cleaner shots, (probably Bernard).

 

I think B-Hop wants Adamek because he has The Ring championship along with the IBF and IBO strap (owch) where as Dawson only has the IBF and IBO (oh the pain...) titles. The Ring outways the IBO (it burns...) belt anyday...Plus even if he does fight Dawson people will only say that he beat a young inexperenced fighter. Besides Adamek schooled Cunningham and Banks in their matchs while Dawson only has a controvercial win over Glen Johnson and a win over a old Tarver to his credit.

 

Adamek may have lost a decision to Dawson but his stock is much bigger at this point... A win over the CW titlist Cunningham and Banks is a whole lot bigger than what Dawson has done lately... Adamek is a hot commodity and dawson is not currently..

 

Can see your point. But i personally think beating the better fighter is more important than the weight class

 

"But Foreman schooled Frazier more convincinly than Ali did, so why should he waste his time?" There, there's your argument (grammatically corrected)... doesn't it sound stupid now?

Dawson's win over Johnson was controversial, his win over Ademak wasn't.

It's already been said: it's obvious what's at play here. Adamek offers: 1) easier fight; 2) new weightclass belt (looks good on paper); 3) more money due to rabid Polish fanbase.

I don't blame BHop for the move. Hell, makes sense. But don't say that Dawson doesn't deserve it. What? Adamek does? How does getting his ass kicked by Dawson make him more deserving (from which he's recovered very well, of course)? It's simple risk/reward on BHop's part. Just don't call it anything else.

 

Nope foreman beat frazier with brute strength not skills, so no he didn't school him more than Ali. Neither Dawson or hopkins knocked out Tarver but Hopkins clearly showed he has more boxing skills and versatility than Dawson if you watch both fights, the same way he showed he has more than Taylor when he schooled Pavlik. And no Taylor didn't really beat Hopkins either before you say that, and B-Hop proved his point when he schooled Pavlik, that not only is he better than Taylor but he was robbed in those fights. Hopefully you get the point now. A, B, C, fight thoery doesn't always apply but in some cases it does if you can see my point.

 

Sounds to me like it applies when it's convenient to your argument. For example, it doesn't address the Dawson schools Adamek problem... of course, there'll be the weight change (which you glossed over in the Hop/Pavlik case), but one can argue that'll just make Adamek slower and easier to hit.

I have no axe to grind with BHop. I know why he's calling out Ademak and I don't blame him. Like I said, makes sense. And to be "the man" from 160 to 200 is a great, great achievement (there's no $ at 168 so no point going after that one).

I just think that ruling out Dawson on the A/B/C theory is far, far from BHop's mind on this one.
Better style matchup + more legacy + more $$ = Adamek. No A/B/C in the equation.