Why doesn't Joshua get the credit for avenging his losses that Lewis does?

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    LMAO. He quit in the first fight and boxed on his bike the entire second fight and any time Ruiz closed the gap be looked like a deer in headlights. It was quite sad
     
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  2. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I keep forgetting that there was nothing at stake in the rematch and Joshua should have gone steaming in there without a care in the world, chin up in the air, swinging for the fences.

    Bollocks to the 100"s of millions at stake, not to mention the irreparable damage a second defeat would have done to his career and legacy. Fook it all aye?

    Where do you people get off spouting such thoughtless, irreverent rubbish?
     
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  3. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

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    It’s because Lennox reduced McCall to tears and obliterated Rahman whilst Joshua got dropped 4 times and won the rematch by tapping and running away from a guy who hadn’t even bothered to train then the corporate machine behind him tried to claim it was a good win

    joshua will never live it down really no matter how much his fan boys try to gloss it over he was exposed and that’s that
     
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  4. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    We live in the fanboy era. That seems to be the single biggest reason. Lewis got caught cold, and simply had to sharpen his focus for the rematch, as he was clearly the better fighter.

    Joshua had himself a real beating. For Joshua to take the immediate rematch, and switch up his style, for me, was more impressive. That’s not to say that he fought better than Lewis, but what he had to overcome was greater.

    Was the fight flashy? No. But most objective boxing fans would have that down as Joshua’s best performance.
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I think it's the manner in which he avenged his defeat compared to how Lewis dealt with Rahman. The McCall rematch debacle has kinda been forgotten about because of its bizarre ending.

    Lewis did a better job on Rahman than Rahman did on him. The same can't be said of AJ against Ruiz...
     
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  6. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    The punch statistics weren't a massive difference at the end. There was a lack of activity going on in the later rounds. As in the blob was just following the bodybuilder around. And Joshua wasn't throwing much back. Lewis fought Tua on the back foot, but he was throwing hard punches and taking a step back each time. Joshua had good opportunities to take advantage of Ruiz's cut eye, but he was too scared of getting gobbled up.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Because Rahman was slow and his footwork was average. Ruiz posed a bigger threat to AJ. Lewis could go into that rematch knowing that if he fought with focus and determination , Rahamn would never find the same punch again.

    Lewis knew 100% he was better than Rahman in every way. How was AJ to know if he was better than Ruiz when he lost so emphatically round after round.
    There was more obstacles Joshua had to overcome and agasint a higher skilled opponent so AJs rematch was more impressive for me.

    Also , the job Lewis did on Tua was not that different than the job AJ did on Ruiz II.. Lewis was smart to fight that way and so was Joshua
     
  9. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  10. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Simply because there are people in this world that appreciate boxing, and those that appreciate fights.

    As any sport, there are people with biased agendas that simply won't give a champion their credit. What population of this site are from the United States?

    Outside of the states, the supporters for AJ is overwhelming, so take the internet nonsense with a grain of salt.

    We have seen it time and time again based on race, creed or religion. Boxing friends in Australia, England and New Zealand all appreciated Joshua's win as the masterclass it was. Even those that prefer Wilder over Joshua.

    Take the agendas out of the equation and you will find that everyone saw it as a sound victory, just not an exciting one...
     
  11. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People will look it more objectively over time
     
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  12. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looked like he had a ways to go in that style too. Ruiz was that bad in the second fight. The rumors about hims blowing off training were right.
     
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  13. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    It's worth noting that Joshua also got little to no praise in beating the then unbeaten belt holder, Joseph Parker. Joshua showed a whole new side to his game and outboxed the boxer, instead of winning with brute force and aggression.

    Let's compare that to another former belt holder who got praise for knocking over people like Breazale. Remember when Joshua beat Breazale too? Yeah, only one of those two got credit. One was years later too...you do the math.

    People will see what they want to see. Don't get too hung up on it, as they are the ones that miss out on enjoying the fights at the time. Only in years to come will they think 'hell, that was actually quite a good performance'. Just look at the career of Pretty Boy Floyd. People loved to hate him, but it doesn't change the fact he's one of the best ever to lace them up.
     
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  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    When Lewis was champ people liked to run him down too. The knock on him at the time was that he had a weak chin.
     
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  15. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Because Lewis never faced his Ruiz Jr (Sanders) or his post prime Wlad ( pre prime Wlad) like Joshua did.