Why doesn't Joshua get the credit for avenging his losses that Lewis does?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lynx_land, Apr 21, 2020.


  1. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,386
    806
    Jun 23, 2007
    To me, Lewis' versatility was one of his most impressive traits. Yeah he was a master boxer, particularly late in his career, but had more than enough fights where he simply went out and demolished world level opponents and barely took a scratch in return (Ruddock, Golota, Grant, Botha, Rahman 2). He could box cautiously when needed (Tua, Holyfield) and also showed the ability to gut it out in the trenches (Mercer, Klitschko). Lewis just looked more natural when he was fighting cautiously than Joshua does though, more fluid in his footwork and his reading of his opponent. Joshua got by on fundamentals and athletic ability, but the fight still leaves unanswered questions IMO.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2020
    Thor Odinson and Kingmaffe like this.
  2. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

    1,136
    1,128
    Aug 19, 2017
    Got stopped on his feet, didn’t KO Ruiz in the rematch.
     
    Thor Odinson and chico g like this.
  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,548
    14,150
    Apr 4, 2012
    I don't give Lewis much credit for McCall II, nobody should.
     
    Thor Odinson likes this.
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,915
    Apr 14, 2009
    Lennox DESTROYED Rahman in the rematch. The way Rahman head fitted into the crown on the King Logo was fitting. Neither Ruiz nor AJ really put up a fight
     
    Thor Odinson likes this.
  5. Kingmaffe

    Kingmaffe Active Member Full Member

    517
    576
    Jul 22, 2017
    I agree, Lewis looked like a far more natural fighter. He was relaxed in there and didn’t look stiff or uncomfortable.

    Joshua on the other hand is very robotic. And it’s not like he has terrible upper body movement, as he has shown the ability to duck away from shots. But he is stiff at times, and looks very tensed up when not in complete control. This may also explain why he has a tendency to freeze when under fire.
     
    Thor Odinson likes this.
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    84,209
    139,900
    Jul 21, 2009
    McCall was sobbing during his ring walk to the ring for the rematch against Lewis because he knew he was going to pull a no mas which goes to show you he felt utterly disgusted with himself for what he was about to do. Now compare that to the two no masses Melon Head Mikey has pulled. The first one being a category A no mas against Salido the later of whom after weathering the early storm was slowly clawing his way back into the fight and when Mikey realized he'd shot his wad and that there had been a momentum shift his little chicken ass jumped out of the fire escape as soon as he was faced with his first bit of adversity. Whoever heard of a Mexican warrior bailing out because of a sore widdle nose??

    And his second no mas was the category C one against Spence. Instead of going out on his shield like a real man would do he opted to play it safe and just try to and navigate his way to the final bell against the featherfished Spence. And to be perfectly honest I feel like that one should at least be elevated to a category B no mas after all that pathetic pumping his fist in the air **** at the end of rounds he'd clearly lost. I bet Big G gave him a right rollicking for that when they got back to his dressing room.
     
  7. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

    7,140
    5,029
    Oct 22, 2015
    But he went in there to prove he was the better all around fighter and the previous loss was a fluke and he did. Joshua went in there to survive 12 rounds and get a decision and it showed
     
  8. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    71,695
    29,295
    Jul 26, 2004
    If you dont mind n have the time

    Where do you have him in an all time head to head ranking?

    Where do you have him all time in legacies?