Why doesn't Lennox have universal approval ?

Name me the better heavies of the 90's.

Name me the guy who has a deeper resume of powerpunching opponents in the history of the division.

 

Define power punching heavyweights, by definition the punch the hardest of all weight classes...on paper....and even the, by most standards light punching Chris Byrd, had his fair share of KO'ing legitimate heavyweights. For example he stopped Jimmy Thunder who iced Grimsley within like 15 sec with one shot while Foreman carried the same fighter the distance, well, Jimmy Thunder, a journeyman possible gatekeeper typ of fighter is never the less a power punching heavy.

 

He doesn't have universal approval because he was recently HW Champ, in ten - twenty years he will get the respect he deserves.

 

Spurious argument. Foreman was on his last legs. Thunder lacked some very basic skills and abilities and his power was overrated. Earnie Shavers was knocked down and beaten by Bob Stalling who was taken out by several nobodies. Does this mean Earnie was not a powerpuncher.

I think it is fairly obvious when speaking of guys like Ruddock, Morrison, Briggs and Tua that we are talking about guys whose power was their greatest asset. Let's not trifle over that which should be understood.

 

I'm sure you've said that its the most overrated single asset also.
Which it may be, because it means very little if you don't have the ability/skill to deliver it effectively against good opposition.

Having a big punch is okay to run up a string of KOs over bums , damaged has-beens and third-raters. I wonder how many 'live' ranked heavyweights those 4 names scored KOs against.
Tua's probably the most credible of them.

 

This is drivel, friend.

Lewis had the talent to hang with a young Tyson prior to any Olympics for either. Tyson was decisioned by a pecking Tillman for the '84 Games and Lewis eventually lost in the quarterfinals in LA that year. You're wrong: Lewis never won two Olympic medals.

If you knew about actual sports, you would understand two things: youth is brief and, if it is a pro career you seek, you don't invest four more years as an amateur at age 18. Lewis did this. He did this, even when his old sparring mate Tyson two years after LA was setting the world on fire as heavyweight champion of the world. But the older Lewis - always tentative, always safety-first - lacked the confidence, the fire, to prove himself the best in the world. He stayed amateur. He would have stayed amateur forever - we'd have never heard of Lewis - had Mike Tyson showed longevity as heavyweight champ. The second is you don't keep getting bigger, faster, stronger as you get older without PEDs. But, wink, forget this.

When Tyson flamed out, suddenly Lewis appeared. And you (more or less) know the rest. Step, by tentative step, he built his career. It's a great resume. Things fell in place: Tyson out, deep amateur experience for Lennox, a pool of steroided heavies who punched but had poor fundamentals, Steward.

When we die out, if the current mainstream trend of all instant fizzle and the-hell-with-basics continues, future generations will quite likely look at Lewis and place him on top, head-to-head, over small dinosaur Joe Louis or a light, slapping Ali.

But, from our graves, we will know better.

If the future embraces Lewis as universally-approved GOAT, they deserve him.

 

Ruddock iced Dokes and Bonecrusher, had competitive fights with Tyson and was thought of highly at that time frame but has no win over a top heavy.

Morrison, while limited but came to fight , win or loose but never ko'ed a top heavy on top of his game

Briggs is a joke, that guy has never ever ko'ed anybody but cab drivers and yes the White Wolf is a freaking cab driver

Tua has a win over the green Ruiz but made his reputation over loosing to Ike, sat on his ranking , got fat and pathetic.

Out of all Tua probably is most likely the most dangerous with legitimate one punch KO power but you stuck a jab in his face he was completely defused.

Rahman ? Whats his best KO win besides Lewis ? Last man standing against the very limited Sanders or Kali Meehan ? Not a power puncher, just your basic jab right hander with no ring intelligence.

McCall ? Professional sparing punch bag, tough but extremely limited. Best KO wins ? Akinwande, green Oleg ? Two guys with very poor chins, again not a power puncher.

IMO, Tyson and Holyfield faced similar competition than Lewis and nobody tous there horn that they fought those tremendous "power punchers".

Putting Holyfield and VK aside, Tyson or Holyfield on top of there game defeat anyone on Lewis's resume.

As a matter of fact, a totally washed up, stoned Tyson needed just one more round than Lewis to finish Golata ......

 

Exactement!:good

 

-Holyfield has the better 90s resume.

-Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Evander Holyfield.

 

You're right. But Lennox faced really many hard hitters in his 14 years career.

If Lewis really had glass chin, he would've been stopped by Tucker, Bruno, Holyfield, Mercer, Briggs and Vitali as all of them connected on his chin, and all of them had the power to KO opponent if he had suspect chin.

Of course, I can name also Marion Wilson who faced like 20 hard hitting top-20 guys (and has 0 KO losses), but he lost to almost all of them.

 

Nobody says Lewis has a glass chin but his chin is most definitely his weak spot and achilles heel, he has never gotten up from a knock down (unless you call the Akinwande touching the canvas one ), you hit him flush and he stays down . Fact.

Now, due to this short coming , which he and Steward knew, he worked around it and I admitt he was pretty good of not getting hit flush by a heavy hitter but when those two han and eggers came thru he was done.

In a OK Corral type of shoot out Lewis CANNOT rely on his chin, Bowe, Holyfield or Tyson can but not Lewis.

For example, do any of you believe that he would have taken those flush right hands he administered on the Tyson impersonator in their actual meeting for as long as Tyson took it ? No way, he would have been counted out in three rounds max and I think I am generous....

 

And fell into the referee not knowing where the fugg he was....if this is your definition of getting up I have a bridge for sale...

 

I don't think his chin was particularly bad at all.
235-pound men hit him with their full weight on the jaw to put him down.
His defence was the problem, surely.