Why doesn't Wlad have a spot on most people's Top 10 ATG HW lists?

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I’ll agree to disagree on that. To each their own.
     
    The Long Count, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:29 PM
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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    When more people give an assessment, it seems more objective.
     
    ikrasevic, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:31 PM
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  3. Cornucopia

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    I did not know he beat the most undefeated fighters, unified the belts & Olympic Gold are good points, most title fights counting the losses, although Louis had 2 more title defense victories.
     
    Cornucopia, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:32 PM
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I believe Wlad had 13 wins over undefeated fighters in double digits. I don’t think anyone else at heavyweight has that many.

    EDIT: he has 12 wins over unbeaten opponents and 25 world title fight wins.
     
    mr. magoo, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:40 PM
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have him in the Top 5 or just outside on any given day.
     
    Seamus, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:50 PM
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  6. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran

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    How many of those undefeated fighters were actually any good? Genuine question
     
    Noel857, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:52 PM
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Without analyzing every single one, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov and Alexander Povetkin were all belt holders. Sam Peter, Bryant Jennings and Calvin Brock were respectable contenders. So that’s at least six good ones right there. I’d have to take some time to scrutinize the rest. Still, beating 12 guys who are unbeaten in double digits is something no one else has done and at least half of those were pretty damn good
     
    mr. magoo, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:57 PM
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  8. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran

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    Doesn`t warrant a top 10 place for me but thanks for the reply
     
    Noel857, Aug 30, 2026 at 2:59 PM
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