Why don’t fighters go for the 8 count

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  1. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    I see so many fights where a fighter gets rocked by a really hard shot and it is inevitable that the next shot will knock them down and cause even more damage. Why don’t they simply go down on their knees and save themselves from further punishment and give themselves more chance to recover. Is it simply adrenaline and not being able to think clearly in the movement.

    Once Joshua wobbled Povetkin with the big right he should have just gone down instead up standing and receiving more punishing blows.
     
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  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I can understand Fighters not wanting to go down for any reason, even though what the OP says make pure sense. What ive never understood is when they do go down they try to get straight back up, you got precious seconds in a time of need, use them.
     
  3. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's what Liakhovich did in the Brewster fight. Sure don't see many heavies doing that.

    Most guys cannot think fast enough to do this--especially when hurt. And you also have an opponent looking to land follow ups so you might be talking milliseconds or say 5 seconds, tops.

    And sometimes fighters with good chins can still have their legs under them. So they are attempting to weather the storm and relying on their defense and reflexes to see them through. Then factor in you probably gave the opponent a 2 point round & the scorecards of any fight are crucial.
     
  4. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This, I think he could have continued after taking a knee with that monster right hand Joshua landed. Instead he tried to stay up and even swing for the fences.
     
  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because they're not very good.
     
  6. Okin129

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    You mean they're not very smart.
     
  7. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    He would have at least survived the round. An 8 count usually gives you 20 seconds to recompose yourself.
     
  8. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't really consider the difference when I wrote that, but what I meant was training really. If he did it often when he sparrs and such it shouldn't be a matter of thinking so much as his natural reaction. Like how journeymen do it.
     
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  9. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyakhovich took a knee vs Brewster, or Mercer vs Holy. In both cases it was very smart move. But few fighters can be smart when they're hurt.

    The same Lyakhovich wasn't smart enough in 12th vs Briggs when he was hurt and then got knocked out through the ropes with 1 sec to go.
     
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  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    There is also always the worry if you're the visiting fighter that this may be used against you in trying to justify a premature stoppage either then or later on - especially if you're up on the cards against a home favourite.
     
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  11. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Yes but it’s obvious that Povetkin was gonna get knocked out after that monster right hand. Who cares about the cards at that point?

    Maybe he knew the fight was slipping away from him and just ended it early.
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Hindsight is 20/20. Aside from that rhese boards would of been ablaze with "Povetkin has never been stopped and was screwed over by a British stoppage because he was getting to AJ" threads.
     
  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    That was how Wlad got through the Peter 1 fight. Took a knee when he felt rocked and outboxed Peter. Without the Sanders loss he would never have done that so there is an instance where Sanders helped his career.
     
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