Why dont boxers unify the ABC belts ?

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  1. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    :conf What is going on ?
    Heavyweight
    2011-07-02 Wladimir Klitchko( WBO,IBF) beats David Haye (WBA)

    Cruiserweight
    2010-05-15 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk beats Giacobbe Fragomeni for the vacant WBC title
    2009-08-29 Marco Huck beats Victor Emilio Ramirez( WBO )
    2011-10-01 Yoan Pablo Hernandez beats Steve Cunningham ( IBF )
    2008-09-27 Guillermo Jones beats Firat Arslan ( WBA )

    Light Heavyweight
    2010-01-29 Beibut Shumenov beats Gabriel Campillo ( WBA )
    2010-12-11 Nathan Cleverly beats Nadjib Mohammedi for the interim WBO belt - Now the WBO champion
    2009-08-28 Tavoris Cloud beats Clinton Woods ( IBF )
    2011-05-21 Bernard Hopkins beats Jean Pascal (WBC )

    Super Middleweight
    2011-12-17 Andre Ward ( WBA ) will unify with Carl Froch ( WBC )
    2009-08-22 Robert Stieglitz beats Karoly Balzsay (WBO)
    2007-10-19 Lucian Bute beats Alejandro Berrio ( IBF )

    Middleweight
    Dmitry Pirog ( WBO ) and Daniel Geale ( IBF ) are talking about unifying.
    2011-06-04 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr beats Sebastian Zbik ( WBC)
    2007-04-28 Felix Sturm beats Javier Castillejo ( WBA ) - Now the supper dupper ultra champ and some punk holds the "regular" title.

    Light Middleweight
    2010-06-05 Miguel Cotto beats Yuri Foreman ( WBA ) - Now the duper ultra champ while some saltwater fish holds the other one.
    2011--03-05 Saul Alvarez beats Matthew Hatton :)lol:) for the vacant WBC belt.
    2010-08-07 Cornelius Bundrage beats Cory Spinks ( IBF )
    2011-07-30 Zaurbek Baysangurov beats Mike Miranda - interim WBO

    Welterweight
    2009-11-14 Manny Pacquiao beats Miguel Angel Cotto ( WBO )
    2009-04-10 Viacheslav Senchenko beats Yuriy Nuzhnenko ( WBA )
    2011-09-17 Floyd Mayweather beats Victor Ortiz ( WBC )
    Berto held the IBF but vacated so he could rematch Ortiz.

    Light Welterweight
    2011-01-29 Timothy Bradley ( WBO ) beats Devon Alexander ( WBC ) - Bradley gets stripped because he was talking about moving up in weight :rofl
    2011-09-17 Erik Morale beats Pablo Cesar Cano for the vacant WBC belt
    2011-07-23 Amir Khan ( WBA ) beats Zab Judah ( IBF )

    Lightweight
    2009-02-28 Juan Manuel Marquez beats Juan Diaz for the vacant WBA and WBO belts
    2011-10-15 Antonio DeMarco beats Jorge Linares for the vacant WBC belt
    2010-08-14 Miguel Vazquez beats Ji Hoon Kim for the vacant IBF belt

    Super Featherweight
    2011-09-10 Juan Carlos Salgado beats Argenis Mendez for the vacant IBF belt.
    2010-11-26 Takahiro Ao beats Vitali Tajbert for the vacant WBC belt
    2010-01-11 Takashi Uchiyama beats Juan Carlos Salgado ( WBA )
    2011-11-26 Adrien Broner beats Vicente Martin Rodriguez for the vacant WBO belt.

    Featherweight

    2010-09-11 Yuriorkis Gamboa ( WBA regular, Super is held by John) beats Orlando Salido (IBF) - Now stripped of both belts.
    2003-09-26 Chris John beats Oscar LeonOscar for the inter WBA belt. John is now the Super champ that dominates the whole fing world - F the WBA.(Had two super champs, a regular and a interim :tired)
    2011-07-29 Billy Dib beats Jorge Lacierva for the vacant IBF belt.
    2011-04-08 Jhonny Gonzalez beats Hozumi Hasegawa ( WBC )
    2011-04-16 Orlando Salido KTFO Juan Manuel Lopez ( WBO )

    Super Bantamweight
    2011-05-07 Jorge Arce beats Wilfredo Vazquez Jr ( WBO )
    2009-01-03 Toshiaki Nishioka beats Genaro Garcia ( WBC )
    2011-07-09 Rico Ramos beats Akifumi Shimoda ( WBA )
    2011-03-26 Takalani Ndlovu beats Steve Molitor ( IBF )

    Bantamweight
    In 2010 Fernando Montiel ( WBO ) unified with Hozumi Hasegawa ( WBC )
    2011-11-06 Shinsuke Yamanaka beats Christian Esquivel for the vacant WBC
    2008-05-31 Anselmo Moreno beats Volodymyr Sydorenko ( WBA )
    2011-11-26 Jorge Arce beats Angky AngkotaAngky for the vacant WBO belt
    2011-08-13 Abner Mares beats Joseph Agbeko ( IBF )

    Super Flyweight
    2010-05-15 Omar Andres Narvaez beats Everth Briceno for the vacant WBO belt
    2011-08-19 Suriyan Sor Rungvisai beats Tomas Rojas ( WBC )
    2011-08-31 Tomonobu Shimizu beats Hugo Fidel Cazares ( WBA )
    2011-10-08 Rodrigo Guerrero beats Raul Martinez for the vacant IBF belt.

    Flyweight
    2010-03-27 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam beats Koki Kameda ( WBC )
    2011-10-29 Hernan Marquez beats Luis Concepcion ( WBA )
    2011-07-16 Brian ViloriaViloria beats Julio Cesar Miranda ( WBO )
    2009-11-20 Moruti Mthalane beats Julio Cesar Miranda for the vacant IBF belt

    Light Flyweight
    2011-04-30 Ulises SolisSolisSolisSolis beat Luis Alberto Lazarte ( IBF )
    2011-10-08 Donnie Nietes beat Ramon Garcia Hirales ( WBO )
    2011-04-30 Adrian Hernandez beat Gilberto Keb Baas ( WBC )
    2010-10-24 Roman Gonzalez beats Francisco Rosas for the interim WBA belt

    Flyweight
    2011-02-11 Kazuto Ioka beat Oleydong Sithsamerchai ( WBC )
    2010-03-26 Nkosinathi Joyi beat Raul Garcia ( IBF )
    2011-10-24 Akira Yaegashi beat Pornsawan Porpramook ( WBA )
    2011-08-27 Moises Fuentes beat Raul Garcia ( WBO )

    So right now we have three boxers that hold two or more of the ABC belts and soon we will have a fourth one( Ward - Froch winner )
    :desk
    17 weight classes with 4 belts.
    Ring magazine has 5 champions.
     
    pahapoisu, Dec 4, 2011
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  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That about sums it up for me.......
    It is pretty ridiculous, isn't it.
     
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  3. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    they do unify but dont hold the titles for long as the abc gangsters tend to strip them for not wanting to fight gay as mandatories or because they just wanna have another fighter as there champ eg.. morales/wbc. and also fighters have to pay a % of there purse to fight for the title so it would be fairly expensive to hold all four titles and defend them
     
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  4. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    But still. Most of the division have four "champions". Doesn't look like they are trying to face each other.
     
    pahapoisu, Dec 4, 2011
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  5. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Unless you bring this **** up at the Klitchko family dinner you're a *****. Wlad and Vitali KO all these midget bitches.
     
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  6. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    They probably aren't. ABC belts look good on TV fighters so you can say "World Champion (INSERT NAME!) is fighting (INSERT SCRUB).

    So what happens is the people that are on HBO or Showtime need an opponent to be approved by the network. A good example is Berto. He won the IBF belt but instantly gave it up because his mandatory wasn't approved for TV so he dropped it. And if a sanctioning body wants to put it on a TV fighter, they'll stall with challengers and mandatories until someone well known gets their belt. It's all business and politics.
     
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  7. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Wlad KO1
     
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  8. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think a massive tournament would help speed things up

    All the Champions in the division face off in knockout tournament ( If a fighter holds more than one title the mandatory for that title joins the tourny )

    Problem ****ing solved.

    Of course the governing bodies would never allow this
     
    Jordan_Davies, Dec 4, 2011
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  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl
     
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  10. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  11. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too much money to be made from carrying one of the 14756 titles and being called a "champion". Would it really be that tragic if one or two of the sanctioning bodies had to fold?
     
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  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Good fricken question. I'm tired of all these guys talking about moving up in weight and winning crappy belts. How about you unify the belts in your own division
     
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  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Because those silly trinkets are irrelevant to who is a the best boxer in a division.
     
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  14. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cuz they don't want to pay the sanctioning fee. Plus others champions just don't want to face other champions maybe cuz they know they'll get their ass beat.

    Take donaire- no other champion wanted to fight him at his division after they saw him KTFO darchinyan

    Khan--After king khan whoop maidana's ass, timothy headbutt bradley got scuurrrdddd. :lol:
     
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  15. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Its gotten to the point where belts literally mean nothing.

    When Hatton/Pacquiao fought at 140 it was for some Mickey Mouse IBO belt,yet everyone knew they were the 2 best fighters at that weight.

    They didnt need some trinkets to prove it.
     
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