Why don't fighters get credit anymore?

As odd as it may seem to the younger guys...in the old days fighters were not Hated, by the fans today....Yep Clay/Ali, but he really worked at it.

I think it's too much watching the build the hate, super fake wrestling/fake punching as they grew up.

I of couse, watched fake wrestling in the old days of Black and White TV. The hate level was lower, they did 45 minutes of wrestling to 15 minutes of BS, today it's 15 minutes of wrestling and 45 minutes of building hate.

If it ain't that ,I sure as hell don't understand, out side of **** talking, how they can hate a fighter who comes into the ring in shape and does his best, can be hated....hated even if he wins.

I think they got to hate someone, because they are not allowed to hate them selves for not getting laid enough.

It's two men in a ring. It has nothing to do with nationality, race or religion. It has to do with the best man or the lucky punch.

 

So Trevor Berbick beat Ali and thats all there is to it? Berbick > Ali?

 

I always respect your opinions on here, but this thread is about boxing fans respect to fighters in general - therefor no need to mention any name vs. name. That would kill the thread on page 2 :good

 

thanks for the respect

I agree that fighters deserve more respect than they get, but really a win or a loss is more than just an W or an L on boxrec

circumstances around a fight are important and so is the way in which the fight is won. Boxing is not like these other sports where the opponents go against each other 20 times and you can average out who is better regardless of outside factors.

 

or minimise who you think you have to be affiliated to.

 

What you call not giving enough credit I call putting a win in to perspective. People just call it how they see it and if the other guy is shot, old, inexperienced, chinney, feather fisted, to small etc then people will just say the truth.

 

Exactly. Because if we want to see the best vs. the best - some will always loose and thats why we as fans before and after a fight should respect the fighters

 

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Funny - because the "truth" and "call it how they see it" change from before and after a fight :huh

 

Well, it IS rare to get 2 peak fighters of similar age & weight in the ring together where the loser doesnt make an excuse but I mostly agree with you.
Nobody called Hatton shot until AFTER the Pacquiao fight is an example, it happens a lot.

 

yes they did brah, theres still a fresh thread around asking "How shot is Hatton 1-10?"

 

Its about finding some reasonable and balanced perspective. Which is something a lot of people have a problem actually doing.

 

Fighters get the credit they deserve with time. While the fight is still fresh in everybody's mind is comes down to a "fan vs fan" thing which makes it interesting because without it we wouldn't be in this forum discussing fights.

 

It's the internet.

There's a reason why you hear trash talk from anonymous people posting on the internet, but not by people sitting among a panel of experts on television.

The fact that nobody knows who you are means you can rip anyone you want for free.

It also depends on who you're talking with. If it's just clowns, then there's no shame in acting like a fool. On the other hand if it's people who know what they're talking about, you think twice. Go into the classic forum on ESB and try talking trash about a fighter, any fighter.

It isn't going to happen.

 

MY BAD, WHAT I MEANT WAS HE LANDED 51 POWER PUNCHES TO PACQUIAO'S 195
PACQUIAO LANDED 45 POWER PUNCHES IN THE 7TH ROUN ALONE. I DONT THINK ANY1 CAN ARGUE THAT THIS WAS THE DLH OF OLD.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE HAS 2 B SOME PERSPECTIVE. ITS NOT AS SIMPLE AS A JUST BEING A WIN, IF IT WAS THAT WAY
HISTORY WOULD LOOK AT MCBRIDE BEIN BETTER THAN TYSON, HOLMES BETTER THAN ALI ETC.

FIGHTERS DESERV CREDIT FOR WINNING BUT EVEN MORE FOR WINNING AGAINST WORTHY OPPOSITION

http://www.compuboxonline.com/column/pacquiao-delahoya.php