There are a lot of discussions about Usyk's alleged weakness to body punches. And yet, the only time he was ever dropped by a body punch was still in his amateur days, delivered by the P4P most devastating puncher in modern boxing. Even then, Usyk just took a knee and then got back up immediately. I can't name a single fighter from history who wouldn't at least take a knee after Beterbiev lands a clean body punch on them. But Usyk has fought punchers like Gassiev, Briedis, Joshua, and Dubois since, and nobody managed to even hurt him with a body punch. Illegal bladder punches obviously don't count, and even Dubois knew he had hit him low; that's why he didn't even protest or say anything to the referee. So, on the one hand, you have Usyk and his alleged glass belly, but the evidence for that is what? A clean punch from a monster puncher as an amateur after which he immediately got up to a standing eight count, and an illegal bladder punch? Both Dubois and Joshua landed plenty of body punches, many of them borderline low blows on Usyk, and yet he never really had any problems taking them. On the other hand, you have Fury, who has been put to the canvas seven times in his professional career. Those seven KDs all came from shots landing on his head. These KDs include two made by former CWs in Cunningham and Pajkic with very low KO ratios. And a third one came from a boxing debutant who, even by Fury's own admission, only grazed Fury. Even opponents like Firtha or a younger Chisora wobbled him badly. Yet, nobody is talking about his obviously subpar chin. He has heart and exceptional recovery powers, of course. But his chin has always been weak. How come the narrative is all about Usyk and his glass belly when we have pretty much zero evidence for that, but hardly anyone is talking about Fury's chin? All the rage is about 'when Fury lands on Usyk's body' and never about 'when Usyk lands on Fury's chin'. Much bigger and better body punchers than Fury couldn't hurt Usyk, but much weaker and less technical punchers hurt Fury multiple times, and a fighter's chin only gets worse as they age. It's only natural due to neurological reasons. Fury is much more susceptible to being hurt on his chin than Usyk is to the body, but the narrative is the other way around. Is it because of the influence of the very pro-Fury British boxing media and international boxing establishment where you only hear about Usyk and body punches but never about Fury's suspect chin? Or is it because most people tend to be just casual fans who can't remember fights from years ago and tend to watch boxing only when there is a big fight on? Or is it a combination of both?
You let a 200 pound man level off on you it's going to be fun. Walking into an overhand right is no fun. Fury might not have an iron chin but he has an iron will and can get up from anything. Usyk will buzz Fury a few times and Fury will buzz usyk a few times. It's a boxing match. Fury's biggest weakness for his size is his relative punching power and his inability to get up for lesser fights and that's all. His chin is fine. He took some bombs off Wilder whilst still hurt and stayed standing. His normal human shutdown mechanisms work correctly but his fighting spirit overrides themselves and his football size adrenal glands turn him into a monster. Knocking Fury down only makes him stronger.
It doesn't matter what people say or think. The fight is happening in 7 days, unless someone pulls out last moment with freak injury again. Then we will see who has glass body or glass chin. The time for talk is over. And to be fair if Fury wasn't such a coward, we would have known already who the better man is, not just by him and Usyk, but by him and AJ as well. 7 days to go and we will have our answers.
I honestly don't see that. He simply doesn't have the power for that, as you rightly said. Relative to his impressive size and weight, he is a surprisingly weak man. Look how easily Ngannou overpowered him. Joshua would do the same to him. I see a fight where Usyk will be pressuring Fury and dictating the tempo, even wrestling off Fury's attempts to clinch and stopping him late, around the ninth or the tenth round.
Francis is a career grappler. Fury has never been outgrappled by another boxer because its a skill as much as it is strength. AJ doesn't know how to grapple he's useless, usyk handled him in the clinch for Christ's sake. Bodybuilding bum.
Nonsense, grappling has nothing to do with it. You can’t utilise grappling skills in a boxing glove. Grappling is done with the fingers and palms free. Ngannou was simply stronger, as Fury is big but actually has a rather slim build. He doesn’t have a massive frame like Joe Joyce. He has just barely thicker ankles and calves than Wilder; he doesn't have a broad chest; he doesn't have considerable muscle mass on his arms. His upper arms are long with flat biceps, and he has a thin wrist for a man his height. If not for his high body fat percentage, his natural weight would be no more than 230-232. Even when fighting Rogan at his career lowest of 245, he never had any muscle definition, and there was plenty of visible visceral fat around his waist. He is tall but not at all a big guy in terms of natural girth and build. Ngannou, on the other hand, is a shredded tank at his natural weight of around 270. I can see Usyk manhandling Fury too, as Joshua is also stronger than Fury, and as you say, Usyk had no problem shoving him away when AJ tried to clinch. Fury is just weak for his size. Have you seen that bench press video he uploaded? It was quite comical, really, yet he and his team were very pleased he could lift 80-90 kilos, which is what, benching 180-200 lbs with a body weight of 280 lbs? That’s embarrassing actually for someone who is always talked about as this big, strong mountain of a man. He has long levers; he has a lot of body fat giving him extra weight; and he is taller than most fighters, so he could lean on those with slow feet and no movement to tire them out. But his raw strength has never been anything to write home about—quite the opposite, actually.
The Wilder fights convinced some people that Fury had a granite chin, which just isn't true. He has great powers of recovery, but in terms of actual durability he's never been the best. Wouldn't be even remotely surprised if Usyk dropped him, he doesn't have power like Wilder or Ngannou but he's fast and is going to be catching Fury with accurate shots from awkward angles.
In my many years analyzing punch resistance I don't know if I've encountered a case as seemingly anomalous as Fury. Larry Holmes comes to mind as having these inherent contradictions contained in his mandible-- but the parallel is not exact, as Fury has certainly been on the deck more often. And yet, he always gets up, sometimes when it seems as if he is actually unconscious!! It's bizarre and inexplicable - a true paradox. On the one hand, he's tasted canvas so many times you have to say his whiskers are shaky, but he seems to have such superhuman powers of recovery that he cannot be asserted to have an actual glass jaw. Fury indeed presents a true conundrum for those of us who have dedicated our lives to mandibular assessment.
Yeah Fury is weak because a notoriously strong MMA fighter did better in thr clinch. What an argument.
Sheesh, is there anything else you know about Fury's anatomy? Fury does not have a glass jaw. It's not granite, few fighters have one, but he can take solid punches. There are levels to punch resistance. It seems for many on this forum, you either have "glass" or "granite"
Every seasoned chinchecker knows a simple fact: once cracked, chin is always suspect. It is a matter of time before it gets cracked again.
Basically because he's been nailed by Wlad RH's, Wilder RH's and the MMA fighter with the biggest punch and still not been KO'd. Meanwhile Lennox Lewis got one-punched twice by fighters with less power and AJ got stopped by Ruiz. Getting put down by a roided Cunningham who swung the biggest RH he ever did straight into Fury's squared-up face doesn't mean Fury has a glass chin. Also Cunningham KO'd Huck who lasted with Povetkin and Briedis, so punch placement counts.
I think people have often noted Fury's chin isn't the best what people credit him for is having good recovery powers. I'm not a fan of Fury or Wilder but that punch Wilder put Fury down with in 12th round of their 1st fight would've kept alot of fighters down for the count.