Why don't some fighters offer like 80/20 purse?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's obvious that some people don't want to face a guy like GGG because he will knock you out and he won't bring in huge money.

    So wouldn't it make sense for a guy like GGG to fight Canelo, but give him all the money and then knock him out savagely to become a huge name?

    If you're so confident you can kick their ass then give them all the money and if they turn it down they become disgraced as ducking.
     
  2. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    It used to be that the winner got the biggest purse but the King/Arum decades long reign over boxing changed it to the bigger media star gets all the cash...so they can steal it from him.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The new way is shady but that's the way it is and life isn't fair.

    Canelo doesn't want to fight GGG. That's just the way it is.

    Offer him 80 percent can he possibly turn that down?

    Then kick his ass.
     
  4. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Winner gets the lions share would be much better for boxing. It might make some of these guys actually try and win fights. Also they need to bring back 15 rounds. Fighters are in all juiced up nowadays so 12 rounds is bull****.
     
  5. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lemieux got paid 1.2 million dollars to face GGG. Okay. That has to easily be one of the highest paid opponents.
     
  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    HBO paid both opponents, did they make their money back?:huh
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    In context that's not that big of a number. Canelo, Cotto and Pacquiao are the only 3 active fighters right now capable selling by themselves.

    Canelo isn't looking for a 1.2 million dollar payday. He's looking for much more. Especially to get in all likelihood brutally KO'ed.

    80/20 seems good.
     
  8. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    You need to think about all the possibilities:

    What if Fighter A pays Fighter B a 80/20 split and:

    Fighter A suffers a cut
    Fighter A get's injured
    Fighter A losses by KO or Decision
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Put your money where your mouth is. Fighters who haven't made it yet big financially have to do something about it.

    That usually involves taking on somebody who is either a big time favorite or getting the short end of the purse.

    You don't just start out as A side. Unless you're DLH a ridiculously handsome Gold Medalist Mexican-American. Outside of a unique situation like that you got to start somewhere and humble yourself.
     
  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if GGG wanted to I doubt his manager and promoter would agree to it.
     
  11. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo and Cotto draw regardless of opponent.
    That's why Canelo fought Kirkland instead of Cotto and Cotto fought Geale instead of Canelo or his WBC mandatory GGG.

    Either one will draw, get the lion's share of the money and get the fight wherever they want it if they fight GGG.
    None of those things seem like enough to get them in the ring though:rofl
    People still screaming about "MUH RESUME" and "HOO HE BEET DOE!":rofl
     
  12. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Ok, put yourself in this situation. Say GGG gives Canelo the 80/20 split and wins the fight. But, during the fight GGG gets cut by an accidentally headbutt.

    Next fight against someone, whether it be a tune-up or another big name fight, GGG gets his cut re-opened and the referee stops the fight.

    How would that affect his career...???
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's why the solution is for GGG to offer 80/20 split. A fight with Canelo would do tons of PPV's.

    GGG won't go hungry with 20 percent.

    It's a good tactic. He could say I offered him 80 percent and he still refused. What a coward he must be then to refuse all that money to fight me.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you see another way??? It's almost impossible to become a financial star from an obscure developing country. You have to just suck it up and take the risks associated with having little to no bargaining power.

    Let's look at the last guy who become a massive PPV star from a 3rd world country. It was Manny Pacquiao. How did that happen? Well he took a 300,000 dollar purse and moved up in weight to fight Barrera who everybody thought would finish him with ease.
     
  15. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah they should just go full ret@rd.
    Accept the 155lb catchweight if Canelo accepts a re hydration clause.
    155lb catchweight with 168lb rehydration clause.
    $1mil penalty for being over weight either way for both fighters.
    I figure Canelo would end up owing GGG $3mil:rofl
    Make up for that 20%