Why Floyd Sr. must Now Train Cotto...

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  1. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With Cotto getting into one of those ghetto-style old school street brawl/domestic drama episodes with his Uncle, the time to find a new trainer is upon us.

    He has a huge fight with a dangerous opponent in June with Clottey, who just might beat him.

    He cannot have these distractions going into the fight. He needs to get with a trainer who will be able to adapt to his conventional boxing style and create a gameplan to beat Clottey.

    He needs someone who will be able to take the reigns, and make him forget about his Uncle.

    He needs someone with a rigourous work ethic and a vibrant personality.

    He needs Floyd "Joy" Mayweather Sr.

    I think the match would be perfect. For one, Mayweather's brash style may rub Cotto the wrong way at first, but once Cotto starts to listen to the knowledge Mayweather will impart upon him, he will forget the assholishness of Mayweather, and just stick to the gameplan.

    And once he knows that Sr., despite his loud mouth, knows what he's talking about, Cotto will listen, and improve on his already sharp boxing skills.

    Cotto will need to emply tricky offense and sneaky defense in order to beat Clottey. Floyd specializes in both things, and the fighters that he has worked with over the years show that they can get even better under wing,

    So Cotto needs to waste know time, and tell his people to get Floyd Sr. who is in the heat of training with Hatton, but after that fight, Cotto needs to hire him and go to work.

    A 2-4 week delay in the fight date would be ideal for him to be able to get a full camp with Mayweather.

    So it is written, so shall it done. Cotto must hire Floyd Sr. as his trainer in order to progess his career and turn back the Clottey challenge.

    You know it to be true:deal


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  2. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    I agree, he's a great trainer, but too bad he's already occupied with Hatton.
     
  3. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    BTW i've been wondering, how much does a trainer of Maywearther's level can charge to train a fighter?
     
  4. sweetscientist

    sweetscientist Yori Boy Die Hard Full Member

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    i am really afraid that this personal strife could well spell disaster for cotto as he looks toward what promises to be a stern and dangerous test against clottey. if there is one thing cotto will need to beat clottey it will be the ability to move around the ring, work coolly and comfortably, relax, breathe in the fight and work with a clear head behind a solid skill set honed in an even, temperate camp. now that looks like it's shot to hell. even with a good match in a new trainer, i think the adjustment to a new trainer at all might really screw with cotto.

    if he brings anger, tension and confusion into camp and into a fight with clottey he will, i think, be hugely more likely to give clottey too many chances to grind and wrestle for short yardage on the inside, too many moments to pot shot him while he is loading up, too many sticky situations in which to turn the fight on a big right hook or right uppercut. cotto needs his skills and his career path has shown us that the more calm, the more collected, the more comfortable cotto is in the ring, the more precise and technically accurate he is. it is only in this way that he is the boxer-puncher who sets up his fearsome power with good footwork and doesn't jump the gun.

    if cotto comes into the fight in a haze of sourness and inarticulate rage...he will be easily baited into a game that clottey plays and wins as well as cotto has played and won a career long game of gradual, smart, technical destruction.

    why give clottey an even fight when you have the tools to make his chance a more narrow, counter-puncher's chance? if cotto comes in mad and tries to out-tough josh clottey, i fear miguel might well walk into a gauntlet of serious punishment.
     
  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Hell No! Then no Floyd fight, **** that.
    & Cotto will become a passive runner to boot, no way.
    (Not a good look)
     
  6. sweetscientist

    sweetscientist Yori Boy Die Hard Full Member

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    it varies depending on the type of fight and length of preparation...sometimes it is a flat fee and sometimes it is a cut of the purse with all the various-media add-ins and what not.

    mayweather has, on numerous occasions priced himself out of opportunities to train fighters for bigtime fights by asking for 2-3 million for an eight to ten week camp or asking for 15-25% of the total purse after pay per view payouts and what not. he pulled variations on those shenanigans with de la hoya, joan guzman and even his own son.

    i mean, he's a terrific trainer, sometimes, but he's also nuts and, like so many trainers who are former fighters, drunk with a bizarre and hyperbolic sense of his own market value and primacy in the sport.
     
  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One also has to remember that while Cotto is improving his english, he's probably more comfortable in the corner with a spanish speaking trainer.

    Not only that but is it good for a guy who can barely speak english (Floyd Sr) to be working with a guy who can barely understand it.
     
  8. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Cotto is a serious and devoted fighter. Why would he hire an overrated trainer whose only claim to fame is that he is the father of Floyd Mayweather Jr? Cotto will not hire Floyd Sr.. He wants someone who is good and will help him, not a guy who just builds himself as a great trainer to boost his own ego, but does not have the resume as a trainer to back it up.
     
  9. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    What an odd recommendation for a replacement trainer. Floyd Sr. trains fighters in a style that's no where near the kind of style that Cotto fights in. Sorry, I just don't think Mayweather and Cotto would mesh well with each other.
     
  10. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    Floyd is totally overrated in my opinion. If you want a good gameplan Richardson is the man to hire. If you want your biggest assets used effectively in the ring then Roach is the man.
     
  11. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually think considering how good his jab is, how effective of a clincher he is and how strong he is with body work (when he remembers to do it), his BEST choice would probably be Emmanuel Steward.
     
  12. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Manny Steward is a great choice. He is a real trainer. I do like Roach also.
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought about Freddie Roach potentially but chances are Roach has his hands full if he's truly committed to potentially training Margarito.
     
  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    He's training Hatton until May, in case you hadn't noticed.
     
  15. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look forward to reading your prediction for Cotto Clottey :good