Why Floyd will always be greater than Pacquiao

He has been fighting at 147 for over a decade now, no more of the weight excuse. Posting excuses like that make it less Poster of the Year and more Pillow Bitter of the Year. Pacquiao has been getting excuses for far too long for no real reason anymore. He is not a flyweight he is a light middle weight on fight nights now. He was 156 pounds in the Mayweather fight, he's a man not a boy.

 

My point still stands as did Willie 's.

I'm not hating on Floyd, I'm not a fan of Pac or Floyd.

Both are ATG's.

 

Pacquiao - Eight titles in different weight classes.
5 time lineal champ.
Floyd could have done those......
He did not, why?

 

Void is void................

 

Pac is a legend. But at no point did anyone ever rate Pacquiao close to Mayweather P4P until Floyd retired in 2008. Only the media fueled rivalry between them made that become a conversation. Then Floyd came back and regained the P4P crown pretty quickly. All of that would be equally true if Floyd didn't dominate Pac in their fight and say if their fight never happened. And they too did fight with a decisive and clear result. Their resumes and accomplishments pretty clearly favor Floyd. But both are head and shoulders above the rest of "their era" which once again speaks volumes.

 

Yeah he is a welterweight, I'm not denying that, but he's a tiny welterweight who has lost MUCH of his attributes by this time. He went from being a razor fast, athletic beast with Golovkin-esque power, big enough to stop people ATG level like Barrera, to being unable to knock anyone out and losing athleticism and speed and its marriage, from after the gruelling fights with Cotto and Margarito.
Fight night weight is not truly representative of size. Gamboa was the same fight night weight at Lightweight as Crawford but that fight was won on size - the size different was massive, Gamboa was tiny at LW and was mediocre (the equivalent of Pac at welter).
The thing is, he was a Lineal Flyweight Champion..and managed to be successful from Flyweight to LMW - spanning 10-11 weight classes. That is what is absurd.

It's like Canelo Alvarez going all the way to Super Heavyweight (not just Heavyweight) - beating a bunch of ATG's, HOF level fighters, all around good fighters in between and becoming an ATG Heavyweight there. The fact is, he has become successful in that weight class, and it's truly unprecedented - a major reason why Duran is 10th in the ATG rankings, thus one of the GOATs.

What happened to the modern ATG in Roman Gonzalez? He started fighting people his size and he wasn't the same juggernaut. His limit is Super Flyweight and in his best weight classes, he is brilliant - he uses size advantage well like aggressive fighters do. Historically, it's praiseworthy when an aggressive fighter does well in a weight class he is on the slightly smaller side for.

 

And don't forget he fought Cotto after Margacheato beat his head in with plaster paris...

 

Errr .... don't you think the fact that Pacquiao moving up from 126-130 and unexpectedly decimating guys in the 140-150 range at that time has something to do with it ??

Pacquiao had his fair share of admirers who rated him p4p before that perhaps too, to be fair.