why fury in the 3 fight looked bad?

He looked exactly the same in all 3 fights imo.

 

Lol quite possible. Fury is just one of those guys who is special. He's so strong mentally and clever at what he does that even coming into a lot of his fights in poor condition, he still wins. It almost makes him like the modern day Ali in that he's going to find some way to win no matter what.

 

I've doubted Fury alot in his career I'm now starting to see that a 50% Fury is even a gap between him and the rest of the division.

 

Injured elbows...child very sick...trouble training.

 

Other than getting clocked by some Wilder monster shots, he didn't look bad, but may have been a little over confident after the 2nd fight and then dropping Wilder early in fight 3. He had his way and showed some masterful moves. It's just that it very tough to avoid Wilder's rights all night.

 

I'd say because this is Sugar Hill's 'Kronk style' training and gameplan when applied to an opponent with fast hands, range and huge power.

The idea Fury's camp was fractured doesn't really explain everything to me, because he was supposed to be keeping in shape all the time now for 'mental health' and the drills and approach should have been quite set. I would even go so far as to say they are exaggerating the lack of training, since I highly doubt they'd risk Fury against Wilder and not delay the fight if he really had barely trained. They'd just delay it a month given all the money involved and the fact it was a family medical problem causing the issue. Let's be real, Warren and Arum etc. all know how dangerous Wilder is at the best of times.

Seems to me what we saw there was the result of Hill's influence finally settling in.

If we look at the trajectory of Fury during the Wilder fights we see that Wilder I he was training with Davison, Wilder II he basically had a half camp with Hill, Wilder III he'd been with Hill for quite a while.

It can be seen during his transition to Hill that he's got bigger, fatter, slower, easier to hit, less stamina and although he might be throwing bigger punches by sitting down on them more, his KO ability hasn't massively improved. He still needed a huge accumulation of punches to stop Wilder in both fights.

I think he would have been better served keeping his older approach and just adding a bit more power. I think he got spooked by the first Wilder fight and tried to revise his whole approach under the bad influence of his idiot father and the Kronk mythology.

The Whyte fight is likely a red herring since Whyte is basically Chisora and has also lost punch resistance no doubt. The style suits Fury as Whyte lacks the speed and range to be effective.

 

Fury clearly looked best in the build up to Wilder 2, his head and neck looked lean and mean like a giant Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

I knew before that fight that he was going to maul Wilder as per his promise, he'd never looked so physically intimidating in his life.

Ahead of Wilder 3 he was looking noticeably softer, not as soft as the weight drained Fury fron Wilder 1, but a noticeable physical decline from the second fight.

This made me concerned ahead of the third fight and whatever Fury fans might claim, the victory was put in jeopardy as a result. Perhaps Fury didn't train as hard or lacked motivation for that bout, or maybe his body had simply begun to decline.

Fury from Wilder 2 is unbeatable in this era. What I don't know is whether it can be brought back.

 

People will say it was just one bad training camp, but the reality is he didn't train through covid at all.

Joshua, Usyk, Wilder - say what you want, but these guys train all year round, which is why they're always in great shape.

Fury eats cheeseburgers and drinks beer most of the year and only starts training max 8 weeks before a fight.

His crappy lifestyle has finally caught up with him, and he's probably past his physical prime.

He cannot get drunk the night before a fight and still win like he did in his 20's, he needs to train regularly.

He may have been only 4lbs heavier (277lbs) in Wilder III than he was in Wilder II (273lbs), but he looked much fatter, which means the lack of training, inactivity and crappy diet between march 2020 and august 2021 = He lost probably 5-10lbs of muscle mass and gained 10-15lbs of fat, which is why his ass was so gigantic in Wilder III.

Maybe he'll regain all his speed for the Joshua fight but I doubt it. He even looked a bit slower in the 2nd Wilder fight than he did in 2018 against Wilder the 1st time.

He's not just been slower because of poor training camps recently, he's past his physical prime, and being easier to hit will give the likes of Joshua and Wilder more of a chance.

 

He just showed up. By that point he felt he had dominated Wilder twice and had a complete disdain for Wilder's skill set. He thought by that point he could just blow through him without really training, and it made it a better fight than the second one. He was right though, he melted him without even training

 

He's generally been only 60%, except for the Klitschko fight and perhaps the second Wilder fight.

If Fury had been more focused on boxing, he'd have been an all-time great. He would have re-matched Klitschko, not been knocked down by Wilder in their first fight, and have gone through all the heavyweight contenders by 2020.

He had what it takes physically, but mentally he's always been rather childlike.

 

First off he is unbeaten, so the opposition were not good enough, fit enough or whatever to beat him.

What incentive to date has Fury had to change his life style, none, the ability to win whilst in second gear does that to you. Another example was Ali, in some title defences he was soft in the middle, but his ability compensated for not training as hard as perhaps he should.

If Fury had been totally dedicated from the outset, he could have totally dominated the heavyweight division like few if any before him, but alas despite being helluva boxer he had more untapped potential.

No one other than himself has managed to dethrone him, perhaps no one will, or perhaps someone might, time will tell.

 

Wilder improved alot lol? Ha ha ha ha…. Good one.

 

Tyson Fury won that fight on shear will & determination.

Which is why he was trying to goad and get a rise out of Wilder at the weigh in and pre-bout...he needed any edge he could get.

Two shot elbows. 3 week training camp.

Walked head first in the hardest puncher of all time and came out the victor. History will never forget The Gypsy King.

 

Fury had a few problems thats already been mentioned on here as well as the fact he lacked motivation on top of everything else that was going wrong at the time. Fury was robbed in the first Wilder fight but Wilder to his credit gave him the rematch and in the second fight we saw the difference what a fully fit Fury could do with Wilder. Fury had his eyes on the Joshua fight but arbitration took that fight away so he was forced to fight Wilder a third time obviously lacking motivation after he had comprehensively beat Wilder in the second fight and also thought the rematch clause had expired. Fury beat Wilder once more in the third fight but Wilder played his part refusing to quit,not allowing his corner to pull him out and went out like a boss in the 11th round.

 

Is this thread a post Fury Joshua excuse? Sounds like it