Why Fury will beat Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jan 16, 2024.


  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even more shocking, Rummy, you included a clip that clearly showed that the low blow was an actual low blow, and then said that a different ref might have ruled it a KD, when the actual ref was standing perfectly positioned to see what happened, and without an instant of hesitation, ruled it low.

    I had thought for some time (up till a year ago ) that this was a 50-50 proposition, but if I absolutely had to pick one, I would have gone with Fury.

    I still feel it's a 50-50, but if I absolutely had to pick one, I would now go with Usyk.
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I did say this,
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    I stand by that. But earlier in the video I also said this:

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    I stand by that as well (which is very similar to what you were getting at above).

    The two are not mutually exclusive.
     
  3. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, here is a long count given to Fury, which another ref could rule as a KO:

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  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'll spell it out for you:

    RC believes that Fury is more likely to drop Usyk with a bodyshot (or win via consistently hurting him to the body) than Usyk is to knock Fury down for a 10 count.
     
  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    And yet didn't drop or stop him over 24 rounds. Whereas a not too obese Andy Ruiz did so in 7 via 4 KD beatdown and quitjob.
     
  6. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Usyk is weak to the body"

    A myth started when people saw Beterbiev dropped Usyk with a body shot in amateurs.

    Then Fury is weak to the chin, he frequently kisses the ground.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk's been dropped at least six times either officially or debatably by body shots, perhaps as many as eight times if you include a couple of known fringe cases. Is his body weak? No, he's never been KO'd. But relative to his iron chin, it's a significant chink in his armour.

    Wlad and Wilder are possibly the two hardest single punchers of all time, Ngannou may be up there too. If Fury had a weak chin he'd have got KO'd multiple times.

    On the other hand, "old school boxing" certainly has a weak brain and carries a lot of resentment. And judging by your BS claim that 39 Wlad was "shot" when Fury schooled him you're physically a mess too, given that you are 38 yourself.
     
  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Not a long count per se - I think Fury arose at 4 or 5, but from the time he hit the deck against NgAnnou til the the time it was waved back on, a full 23 seconds had elapsed - a time frame that was pretty much identical to the Wilder KD.
     
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  9. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's sum up:

    Usyk :
    1. Olympic gold medalist
    2. Multiple amateur championship gold medals
    3. Undisputed cruiserweight champion
    4. Unified heavyweight champion
    5. Never been dropped
    6. Disciplined and lives healthy

    Fury :
    1. No gold medals in any international amateur competitions
    2. Never been an unified champion
    3. Never been an undisputed champion
    4. Been dropped multiple times
    5. Overweight most of the time and had problem with drugs

    + SUM:
    = Usyk beats Fury.
     
  10. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    • Fury couldn't KO or drop Wlad.
    • AJ dropped & KOed Wlad.
    • Usyk beat AJ twice.

    Hence, Usyk beats Fury.
     
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  11. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dwyer also picks Usyk as the winner:

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  13. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights and Fury beat Klitschko more convincingly than AJ did (not being dropped himself). Also again, don’t bother responding to NEETs, they are a troll and not here to discuss boxing.
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Because Fury is also a flawed fighter who's been dropped by far lesser punchers and fighters than Usyk.

    Joshua's also only been dropped by two men in his career, the huge punching Wlad (which he got up from and won) and Ruiz. Fury's been dropped four times in his career, twice by cruiserweights and once by a complete novice from MMA. His chin is clearly of a lesser calibre than Joshua's.
     
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  15. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury couldn't land a proper show on Wlad. How can you say that Fury beat Klitschko more convincingly? The fight is on YouTube, go watch and show me one single power shot landed on Klitschko.
     
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