Why Golovkin avoids Lara, and even pretends he doesn't exist

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Eddie couldn't reach a compromise with Eubank Jr, he put the proposal to Kell. When Kell jumped at the opportunity, it was put to K2 and GG.

    The deal was completed in 48 hours.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    So it took less than 48 hrs for Golovkin to accept Brook as an opponent?? :think

    What the hell is wrong with Golovkin? Even after harshly criticizing Canelo for doing the same thing, he just agrees to fight a WW without giving time to explore other options??
    :patsch
     
  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All I'm saying is the B side can contact with the A side. K2 and HBO are not gonna be willing to spend a million for a voluntary defence so Lara should do more than social media call outs. It's not right, Lara should be above Brook on possible GGG opponents list but not chasing a fight isn't ducking it.
     
  4. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    Sure they can.....but 90 percent of the time the aside is doing the contacting .....if gee is the star and draw his fans claim he is than he can afford a million for an opponent

    All k2 has to do is put out an offer.., their best one and say "this is the best we can do take it or leave it".....Lara doesn't have to chase him...he let it be known he wanted to fight ....Lara is still getting headliners on tv without gee

    When Lara was brought up he was dismissed by loeffler and sanchez told him to go get in line at 160 (even tho Rosado didn't)......them not trying to get Lara has to do with his style more than anything and I think it's obvious
     
  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We can agree to disagree on why they're not chasing Lara, but now you're playing dumb with the Rosado thing. How much did he get paid, 100k? 150k? If Lara says "I'll fight GGG for the same money that Rosado or Monroe fought for" then he'd have a stronger case for It, then I'll admit K2 should go after him.
     
  6. Loudon

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    Why do I keep having to explain this?


    Forget Canelo.

    Canelo gave GG the run around and specifically chose Khan after requesting a voluntary.


    Here's the deal:

    Almost 3 weeks ago, GG had signed his part of the contract to fight Eubank. He and K2 were just waiting on the Eubank's. But when Snr's ego went into overdrive and they still hadn't signed in the following week, Eddie knew that they couldn't reach a compromise. So, with just under 9 weeks to go before the fight, with the venue booked and half of the card put together, Brook was offered to GG. That was on a Wednesday. GG agreed and it was made official on the Friday. On the Friday it was made official, it was exactly 9 weeks to the weigh-in. GG's camps are usually around 8 weeks, and they had to schedule the press conference etc.

    So yes, GG took the deal, that was for the same terms as the Eubank contract. Matchroom were happy, and so were HBO, as they'd reserved their 10th of September date at the start of the year. Now unless GG could have immediately have tied up another opponent that HBO and K2 were happy with, he couldn't have fought on HBO's proposed date, as there wouldn't have been enough time to have finalised it whilst also giving GG his 8 week camp.

    That's what most of you like minded people don't appreciate.

    This was rushed through, literally last minute.

    If he'd have declined Brook and the 02 to find someone else, he'd have had to have cancelled his HBO date, again, unless an opponent had been available to sign within 48 hours with their camp to start the following week. Now let's be honest and ask how realistic that would have been?


    The other question to ask, is:

    Although the Brook fight isn't great, why would he have declined it and his HBO date, to try and fight someone else?

    Why?

    The Brook fight is a big PPV fight, giving him the opportunity of broadening his fan base.

    Nobody would decline that to try and fight someone else at MW, especially knowing that they couldn't fight Jacobs, Canelo, BJS or Eubank.

    It would have been completely illogical, and anyone who says they would have done so in his position, is either lying or they have absolutely no concept of the boxing world.
     
  7. The Shockmaster

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    K2 should out their best offer out and make it known...."this is the best we can do take it or leave it"....when I've mentioned how he brought Rosado up from 154 (mostly just to point that he brought someone up to defend his title against)...all I kept hearing was "that was years ago ggg is much more known now and a star".....surely a star that is well known can afford more than a couple hundred thousand for an opponent by now right? I mean isn't ggg selling out arenas ans hbos most pushed star?
     
  8. Peril

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    I am curious as well. Lara is a threat to anyone but not to GGG. You can't outrun a man that cuts off the ring so well and has ambidextrous knockout power. Something is fishy AF.

    I don't believe GGG is even remotely worried about Lara. I think it might be Tom's doing, saying GGG will fight anyone but only targeting fighters with a considerable fan base.
     
  9. IsaL

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    Here's the bottom line, GGG has a very poor resume when you consider how long he's been pro and his age.

    GGG fighting a WW at 160 is pathetic when you consider his career. Everything else is an excuse.
     
  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Golovkin avoiding top, slick fighters, just like Pac did for years.
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, maybe they should. If he still still can't get Canelo, BJS, CEJ, Jacobs, next, make an offer to Andy Lee, Lara, Groves, Chudinov, Bute. Definetly would be better then another money grab with a welterweight.
     
  12. Loudon

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    The bottom line, is that you have just IGNORED EVERYTHING I'VE WRITTEN IN MY POST.

    Yes, GG has a poor resume. Nobody is denying that.

    Yes, fighting Brook is disappointing. But for the hundredth time: he signed to fight Eubank, but accepted Brook at the last minute to keep his HBO date.

    Am I getting through to you?

    It's a dissapointing fight DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES.

    Stop being ignorant and work with me here.

    I go to the trouble of typing out that post explaining things in detail, yet all I get as a response, is:

    "Everything else is an excuse"


    What's wrong with you guys?


    If GG had've declined, who could he have fought?

    A mandatory?

    A JMW?

    A low level, keep busy MW?

    Who?

    For what? Less money and probably the same amount of criticism as he's getting now, whilst also jeopardising his plans to fight another 2 times before the end of the year?


    Look, if you've got nothing of relevance to say, don't waste anymore of my time.
     
  13. SOUTHERMOST

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    Great article but people in this forum have a nose for boxing we all knew the reason and Lara too, GGG with his robotic style is made for the slick counter puncher.
     
  14. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    You're an excellent educator (I am one myself so I have a bit of an expertise on the subject ). Unfortunately, you can not teach someone when they are not seeking the truth - IsaL has a narrative he sticks to because it suits his agenda.
     
  15. Bollywooden

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    Yeah, I'd say that's the reason K2 aren't interested. Loeffler knows Lara will ask for a lot of money without bringing much to the table himself.

    That's why he advised Lara to win a title at 160