Why Golovkin avoids Lara, and even pretends he doesn't exist

I don't disagree, CES is primarily to blame. But if CEJ wanted the fight he should have stood on his own two feet and stopped Sr. blocking it.

So CEJ does not remain blameless.

 

I always said It was Senior who blocked the fight you moron, I never said CEJ ducked GGG. You posted that garbage about GGG never wanting to fight Eubank, that Brook always being the target, and I asked you to show some proof. Instead, you posted another garbage agreeing with my post with stupid insults. Like I said, get a ****ing grip.

 

Conspiracy theories ...

 

It's not a big conspiracy...remember boxing is entertainment ....and Eubank and brook are promoted by the same man....it's not far fetched at all.....it's just as believable as someone saying "brook was his only option"

 

drenlou,

Once again, I'm not happy about the fight.


What do you mean Eubank was never on the cards?

GG signed his contract for the fight.

Eubank Jr never saw the contract, because Eubank Snr wasn't happy with it.

Wake up.

Eubank Snr wanted several clauses adding to it that Matchroom were never going to agree to.


He requested:

The PPV price to be doubled.

The tickets to be doubled.

Barry McGuigan to commentate.

Full control over the entire promotion that included the undercard.


We're talking here about a guy who steps into the ring in-between the rounds, just to pose to the crowd without even speaking to Jnr.

We're talking here about a guy who wants to be addressed as: "English"

We're talking here about a guy who's an eccentric control freak who's ego is bigger than Brighton.


It's now been 2 weeks since his name has been tarnished, yet he still hasn't denied ANYTHING of what Eddie has said.

Don't you think that's strange?

I've been watching him for more than 20 years.

There was no reason for Eddie to lie, and if he had've done, Snr would have responded in a matter of MINUTES.


If Eddie had've wanted Brook to fight GG instead of Eubank, he'd have tried to have done that from the outset.


Regarding it being his only viable option, well, to keep his HBO date, yes it was.

Again, the fight was made official 9 weeks to the day of weigh-in.

He wouldn't have had the time to have negotiated with another promoter, another fighter, or to tie up another venue, and to organise an official press conference, whilst also giving himself an 8 week camp.

It would have been just about impossible.

Debating with you is so tiresome man.

Why don't you think carefully about what you're typing?

He bypassed the JMW division to fight a MW in Eubank.

He signed the contract.

For what feels like the millionth time: He only accepted Brook because he was a last minute replacement, under the same terms, for the same date.

It was either that, or try and find someone else to fight on another date. But don't forget that he only chose Eubank in the first place because he couldn't get Canelo, Jacobs or BJS.

Now do you get it?

Brook was his 5th choice.

A rubbish fight, but one that gives him the opportunity to broaden his fan base on a big PPV.

Nobody would have turned that down and cancelled their HBO date, which would have jeopardised his wish to fight another twice this year, to just TRY and find a better deal.

It would have been illogical.


Please come and join us back in the real world.

NOBODY at 9 weeks out from the fight, with a contract in front of them to fight at the 02 on a big PPV, would turn it down to try and fight Erislandy Lara instead.

People have got to be reading this and laughing out loud.

You have no idea what goes into a fight and how complex it is.

It may be the greatest sport on earth, but it's also an absolutely ruthless business.


Here's an an*logy for you:

It's late at night and you're starving. You drop in on your friend who's ordered pizza and has been given an extra one for free. He offers you the free pizza that will satisfy your hunger.

Do you gladly accept it and stuff it in your mouth?

Or

Do you turn it down and say: "Thanks anyway mate, but I'm going to go and walk down the road to see if there's a burger bar still open?"





Trust me, although it's a sh*t fight, you would have accepted Brook in GG's position.

K2 were happy.

HBO were happy.

It would have been stupid to have turned it down.

No, Brook isn't a MW.

Of course I understand that. But again, he initially signed a contract to fight a MW in Eubank.

Okay?

There is a WORLD of difference between ACCEPTING A WW at the last moment, and actually PURSUING A JMW.

How hard is that to understand mate?

It was never his intention to fight Brook.

After he's fought Brook, his attention will then be focused back on Jacobs and Saunder's, and he'll have to clear up another mandatory at some point.


On we now on the same page?

If GG had pursued Brook from the outset, I would agree with pretty much everything you've said. But he didn't. The fight was only made due to circumstances.


I've told you before:

You can have a debate with me whenever you want.


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Maybe. But I think CEJ was genueinly interested in fighting GGG.

 

Maybe he is....and maybe that's coming up soon after.....who knows

 

Where do you think the money comes from?

You might think that Lara deserves the same amount because he's as good as what Brook and Eubank are, if not better, but like GG-Brook, GG-Eubank would also have sold out the O2 in a matter of minutes.

This fight against Brook is going to be HUGE in the U.K.

It's going to do great numbers on PPV.

You don't seem to understand how a fight gets made. Deals have to be worked out with the networks where they discuss the percentages of the PPV etc. The venue has to be booked and the ticket companies have to be negotiated with. The U.K. PPV has to be set. The proposed viewing figures have to be estimated. The contracts get drawn up after they've estimated the profits of the promotion.

Now GG couldn't have fought Lara at the 02. If GG had've declined Brook, Matchroom would have withdrawn. GG would have had to fight in another venue, in another country, under a different promoter, and it wouldn't have been on U.K. PPV.

GG-Lara would never be as big as GG-Brook or GG-Eubank.


You can't say things such as:

"Lara should have been offered the same"

"He could have taken that same contract to Lara"


It doesn't work like that mate.

Without Matchroom working in conjunction with Sky, K2 and HBO, there is no big money contract.

 

Rosado was a keep busy fight when he was on the way up about 4 years ago.

Now he's got 3 of the 4 belts, after Brook, his attention will be firmly back on Jacobs and Saunder's, and hopefully a fight against Canelo can be made if he moves up next year.

Things change.

A lot can happen within a 4 year period.


Wade was a mandatory.


Brook was a last minute replacement after they couldn't get Eubank.

 

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After 2 weeks, Snr hasn't said anything.

That speaks volumes.

 

The point is, this is why he accepted Brook as a last minute replacement.

 

Yeah. I think he knew his son wasn't ready and wanted to protect him.

 

I think he was a 100% genuine.

 

Did we not clear this up yesterday?

The arena was booked after provisional talks had been held with all parties, with the finer details to be worked out at a later date.

An arena has to be booked well in advance, in the same way that HBO's date does. GG's HBO date was booked at the beginning of the year when nobody knew who he was going to be fighting.

At the time the contracts were drawn up, Eddie obviously didn't foresee Snr's ego going into overdrive.