Why has Adamek's punching power not carried over to HW unlike Haye's?

I've read he actually was put down at least once by some Eastern European who's name eludes me at the minute. Didn't actually see the fight mind.

 

I think it's a matter of a different style that he used in his HW run before Vitali comparing to his CW fights. After the Klitschko fight Adamek bulked a little bit and started to commit more to his punches. In the 3rd round Aquilera almost went down after a single left hook, but TA injured his hands and decided to go to decision. Eddie Chambers is a safety-first type of boxer so he doesn't count. Walker went down after one punch.

I admit that his punching power is not impressive but I can't tell if it's about his style or his physical potential.

 

we can always ask chisora? he'd been in there with fury, vitali, and helenious. never been knocked down when he got to haye, let alone knocked out. ruiz had only been stopped by tua, but haye knocked him out.

look, if you're blind to the fact that haye is a puncher, doesn't that confirm that you're a bit ******ed? because it sure looks like it from where i'm sitting.

 

why? valuev hadn't been hurt in his entire career, but haye wobbled him pretty badly. that shows power. maybe not to you, but to people with a bit of brain power it does.

 

There's a slight problem with your argument here though. Shot Ruiz and Chisora are well ****. Sure Haye's got a bit of pop but it's hardly on the level of even a David Price. Just who actually his Haye ever genuinely KO'd where he couldn't continue? Even A-Force was up and raring to go before being stopped by TKO.

 

Adamek had good power at LHW, decent at CW, and has little at HW, it's just his style, at the lighter weights he could brawl when he needed to, at HW he's just facing bigger and stronger men, so it's natural he changed his style to box, move out, box

Haye carried up his power from CW, but he should of concentrated more on learning to throw combos, and not count on the odd hayemaker landing, it would of done him wonders

 

cus roger is not good for him,TRiing to make him fight like a black american style fighter,i liked his straight forward EE style where he was bulling opponents with constant pressure not this "in and out slaping ****"....but he had to adapt to heavyweight,he canr bully them big guys so he have to box safely and take wins by decisions ....TA should have stayed with gmitruk in cruise division and he would be HOF champion

 

has bergy baby got huge power aswell cause he near knocked valuev on his ass aswell..

i think its to do with the fact haye was a small heavyweight fighting at cw and adamak is a lhw..haye didnt have huge amount of bulking to do to make heavy..just my opinion though

 

Haye also weight drained and had trouble staying at 200 lbs.

Haye was/is a small heavyweight.

Actually Haye seems somewhat larger than Muhammad Ali to me.
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Ali at 221

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Haye at 222.

Ali was clearly getting somewhat more chubby while Haye clearly looks less fat.
Ali and Haye also have equal reach and lenght.

 

Power which power? He wasn't featherfisted because he was big for his weighclass but not because he was very strong or explosive. And everyone knocks Cunningham down

 

i agree, he put the weight on wrong, and i agree with some above points about him not committing to his shots like he used to.

also Adamek was a lightheavy and Haye was a big crusier

 

Haye is known to be an exceptional puncher with great speed and timing
and he is naturally build for the low HW limit (a bit too heavy for CW).
His power alone is currently one of the best p4p.

Adamek is naturally build for a mid-upper CW (well drained at LH and too bulked up at HW)
he rarely rely on speed and power to deliver one shot, he is boxer/combination puncher
he is still able to knock down/hurt lesser HW guys if that opportunity happens.

 

atsch you're so stupid in so many ways it hurts. regardless of you thinking that ruiz and chisora are ****, the fact remains that chisora had taken the best that helenious, vitali, and fury could dish out without so much as hitting the deck. haye was able to do this, as well as knock him out. that shows that haye has power. even if he didn't knock him out he still packs a good shot that anyone with a pair of eyes can clearly see.

the same goes for ruiz. he wasn't in his prime when it happened, but neither was he when he went the full distance with chagaev and valuev. he lost close fights. haye bust his face up and stopped him.

how many knock outs do you see where they are out cold for the full ten count? i'll tell you, not many. most are with the opponent still standing. or they beat the count but the ref waves it off.

i never said that haye hit harder than price. it's clear to all that price hits harder. i'm not disputing that.

 

It's purely genetics, end of story. Adamek needs to put on both muscle and fat to make heavyweight while Haye only needs to put on muscle.

 

I ****ing can't stand Haye. I think he's a total con man.( should I end this post here?). That being said, I have to admit he does have some pop. Especially for his size. I dont know what came over me. You'll never see that again, and if you tell anybody I posted this, I WILL deny it :good