Why has Adamek's punching power not carried over to HW unlike Haye's?

Adamek managed to prove something with the KO win over Walker. Now he's up against another heavyweight that should be tested by his power.

I was surprised to see Johnathan Banks favoring Adamek over Cunningham, arguing that Cunningham wouldn't have the power to keep Adamek off him.

I think what makes Haye special is the devastating speed with which he can get to opponents early. Adamek's power is rooted more in raw accumulation then one punch.

 

Maybe Haye KOed Chisora because Chisora already took too many punches from Helenius and Vitaly and his chin is now dented.
Haye didn't show any power at HW except for KOing Chisora, who is a very durable(or was very durable) bum.
Same thing happened to Peter.

 

I think Valuev being hurt has to do with the fact that he's so slow that he can't roll with punches nor was his defence really great. (Besides his size)

 

That's true. Adamek's always been quite narrow shouldered and small in the upper body for a man of his height. Haye's much wider of frame despite being of a comparable height. There was literally no way Haye could have fought at LHW at the same age as Adamek did; he would have been fainting on the scales and Bambi legging at the smallest shots. Cruiserweight was the perfect weight for him, and he's more or less still a cruiserweight today, the difference being a few pounds more muscle and the advantage of not having to drain weight before a fight.

Cruiserweight was a pretty good weight for Adamek as well, though he always struck me as being just a little on the small side compared to some of his opponents. When he moved up to heavy I was surprised in a way I wasn't surprised with Haye, since he clearly hadn't outgrown the weight. Subsequent performances have shown that he wasn't really a natural heavy, though I think it's a least partly a stylistic issue why he doesn't seem to have as much power.

There's also the fact that he was never as big a puncher as Haye. That difference is going to be magnified when he fights larger and more durable opponents. A punch which may have rocked a CW and led to a KO, is not going to do much to a fully fledged heavy.

 

Adamek actually has better victories at HW. He defeated Arreola convincingly and Haye had 50-50 fight with Valuev and KOed the bum Chisora. Haye didn't show a lot of power at HW. He just avoided the best or when fought them he just ran, unlike Adamek who actually fights.

 

I think it was mainly because the shot caught him round the back of the ear. That's not really a chin issue but a balance issue. Still takes power to make that happen of course.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Calling Chisora a bum is extremely unfair, especially since you big up the Arreola victory, who isn't that much better an opponent, if at all. Who has Arreola beaten remotely close to a Robert Helenius? (I hope you don't consider that a loss for Chisora, because it clearly wasn't)

Adamek's got a solid resume, but you make it sound like it's head and shoulders above Haye's which is not true. His wins against Chambers and Arreola along with his generally greater activity probably puts him a bit ahead, but don't make out that he's taken on the all the best the division has to offer. He has a lot of crap on his resume as well.

 

Haye was just always the bigger puncher.

Haye has simply moved up better.

Haye also has speed and is explosive. Adamek's would just let his ko's happen he never forced it. His style hasn't changed much.

 

james toney had like 2 KOs at heavyweight, try again

adamek was fighting at 174 pounds in 2007..... david haye was a huge cruiserweight and was 198 pounds vs enzo in 1998
thats a 24 pound difference right there.....

why is adamek supposed to be knocking out heavyweights again?

you dont know **** about boxing :hi:

 

Haye is the bigger man. He moved from 200 to heavyweight because in his words "I was killing myself to make 200".

Adamek was having a difficult time making 175, but never had a problem making 200. He moved up to HW because he wasn't getting any decent paydays at cruiserweight.

Adamek's power carried up one division from light heavyweight to cruiserweight, but he's really to small for heavyweight.

 

he bothered valuev momentarily with a punch. that he almost knocked him out is utter bs. chagaev had valuev in far more trouble.

 

Haye is sharp and explosive puncher so that is attribute which kinda carries power. Kinda different situation with Adamek cause he was a good puncher yes but he wasn't that kind of explosive and sharp pucnher. Those attributes doesn't disappear when you move up but punching power of volume puncher (which Adamek is) is something that suffers always when you fight against bigger guys.

 

Chagaev? Had Valuev in trouble? There was no single moment when Valuev was trouble against Chagaev

 

Im a big fan of Adamek's but he changed his style when he moved up, now he doesnt really commit or sit on his shots and really doesnt go for the kill as much

I couldnt help but feel he could have stopped Guinn who never was stopped before if he kept hitting the body, the body blows looked like they were doing plenty of damage but as he would start to hurt him he would kind of back off rather than capitalize

Haye was a much bigger puncher at cruiser in relation to Adamek and only makes sense at heavyweight he would be the harder hitter