Why has Margarito turned into a s**t talker, since the Cotto fight?

Where did I say he needs to fight him immediately?, and the way Wladimir thinks is totally different, he considered his brother beating him enough vengeance for him, also Wladimir tried to get a rematch there and that's a totally different story. Fact is our discussion here is Margarito, TRY to stick with it without trying to drag in any other topic to cover up an obvious horrible situation you're in. I never said he needs to rematch him immediately, it has been years already and Santos is the one offering a rematch only weeks ago, he had enough tune-ups to be ready for it by now, don't you think?, or is DLH more worthy in terms of the legacy Margarito always seeks as some of his fans continue to claim?

Try to answer that without bringing Vitali Klitschko and Bobby Pacquiao into the discussion this time.

Till you prove otherwise, it's clearly you.

Again you bring someone else into the discussion, Pacquiao. Of course I will mention DLH, he's willing to move up in weight to fight DLH yet doesn't want to move up in weight to avenge a loss?. You're saying "Why move up and fight someone that beat him" like avenging losses isn't in Margarito's standards all of a sudden and isn't a MUST in boxing as fans continue to claim for a fighter who wants the legacy.[/quote]

You and obviously, you don't see me saying junk like "Why avenge a loss?, it's pointless!!" nor bringing up Barrera/Morales/Williams/Pacquiao/Holyfield/Tyson/Bruno/Ali/Foreman and almost every single fighter out there in the discussion in failing attempts to twist the subject. :smoke

Hatton was an established MAJOR name at the time, check out the news regarding demands of that fight to happen and compare them with Margarito's please. Margarito was an unknown at the time and anyone with half brains would tell you that as you obviously weren't here at the time. This is like saying a fight with Williams is demanded more than a fight with DLH, just look at the news!!!

You think a fight with Margarito would have brought 850k PPV buys?, the answer is no and for obvious reasons.

You and easily.

 

It's obvious when a fighter is using his head on purpose and the position of the legs or the way the fighter is throwing his punch can be a major factor if you watch replays, I caught Holyfield countless times doing those on purpose and they're not only the Tyson fight. Both Lewis fights, both Tyson fights, Rahman, Toney, Bowe and I can go on forever. This includes Bernard Hopkins if you watch when he lands punches in slow motion you can easily catch him. An accidental one can be as obvious if watched closely in slow motion, the Santos headbutt was a case of both hitting each other and Margarito being the unlucky one who got the cut and that happens A LOT when a southpaw meets an orthodox fighter. This wasn't an intentional one and not even close if you watch it closely, with Margarito's charge-in style this should be expected even more against a southpaw.

 

I disagree with you on the Rahman fight, Honestly I watched that **** a million times and what I saw was Hasim bounce off the ropes leading with his head While evander was closing in to get some work done on the hurt fighter, it was just like Round 5 of Tyson Holyfield when the two came together like rams.
But even though it doesnt look like its intentional doesnt mean that its not, these guys train their asses off in the gym and they pick up the dirty tricks along the way.

 

Of course they do but a southpaw vs orthodox fighter ALWAYS have issues with headbutts and for obvious reasons, don't think all of them are planned ESPECIALLY not the one that opened the cut because I've seen that many times.

Tyson vs Holyfield was FULL of butts, starting in the second round of the very first fight, everytime Tyson charges in Holyfield positions his self well enough to get Tyson nailed there and right on spot. Don't know if all of them were accidental but 20 can't be, just like in the rematch, the very beginning of the second round Tyson gets butted and is busted open, then 6 other headbutts followed in that very same round. Holyfield's headbutt tactics are mastered perfectly well in training even to his opponent's height. He busted Lewis open in the rematch with a headbutt with Lewis having to complain numerous times to the referee without getting any serious attention about it, same thing in the first fight. I'm not saying Holyfield is a pure cheater and all the rest are fair, all fighters have dirty tricks and do what they have to do to win but when it starts to get too obvious that's when people will start talking. In the end you do what you have to do to win, this doesn't mean your opponent will be 100% fair either.

 

The Tyson Holyfield fight was a style thing both guys come in that way, listen to what Mike said regarding the head but during the interview with Jim Grey, he said he butted me but I butted him also.
its part of the game, there was nothing IMO intentional there, nor in the second fight, I think the Headbutts from Holyfield with Lewis you have a case about but Holyfields style is usally to bend them knees and fire as you come in, or get low and work his way in and finish up top you have to protect yourself

 

Yeah I did mention that style could be a case which is with Holyfield but some of those were also intentional, in the end all have dirty tricks and some can't be caught, only the fighter in there catches it and either complains about it or applies some of his own dirty tactics. That's how it is in there a case of breaking your opponent down mentally before you do physically if neither work then you have been broken down and eventually lose.

 

Scar are you a ****ing alien my man,how do you ****ing type so fast?

 

Thats what kept Hopkins around as long as he has been

 

Indeed.

 

Everything I do work-related is based on the computer, hear that a lot.

 

he can back it up... that's the difference.

 

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, rewind the weigh-in, and you will see that Cintron pushed his nose right into Margarito's nose and ever so slightly leaned in to Margarito. Margarito, as a fighter, thought that was disrespectful. Cintron made things worse by gesturing with his finger and slicing his throat. Margarito in turn mocked Cintron by imitating a crying Cintron. To my knowledge, Margarito has always been respectful.

 

It's only one example. He made some inflamatory remarks about Hoya's cross dressing as well. Again, I don't mind these type of things at all.

 

Yeah . . . who said you're not telling truth?

Isn't what I'm saying the real truth?

Williams and and his team was saying the middle weight fighters are ducking him . . . specifically Pavlik . . . Pavlik said he might need to nail Calzaghe's feet to stop him from running away from him . . . Williams was claiming PBF is ducking him too . . . etc etc etc . . . now who's not a trash talker? Why are you ponting out only Margarito.

Fighters makes noise to get noticed. :deal

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