Why has Mexican Boxing Declined?

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    My favourite kinds of boxers, but they have dropped harder than USA.

    - Their amateurs show no major promise.
    - Their top stars are Juan Francisco Estrada, Canelo Alvarez, Abner Mares and Oscar Valdez...that's it.

    Canelo is not and never will be truly elite. Estrada is the best Mexican fighter today without a doubt and should end up as a HOF with his abilities. Marquez is like 42 years old the other day. Mares is a very good fighter (is he slipping though?).
    Valdez shows promise but not like that of an ATG.

    Remember the previous era had Barrera, Morales and Marquez all in one division? Ricardo Lopez, Jose Luis Castillo, Rafael Marquez, Israel Vasquez etc.
     
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  2. The Smoking Man

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    There amatuers are better than ever there programme is great
     
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  3. InsideJab

    InsideJab Member Full Member

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    Canelo is already better than Castillo, Rafael Marquez or Vasquez ever were in my opinion and he' still so young. Other than that I agree there has been a slight decline but that's no huge shame considering the previous era being so hot.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    hahahaha did you just meation israel vasquez, and rafael marquez as examples of how strong the previous era was for mexican boxers? no wonder you're 2014's ****tiest poster of the year. israel's little brother sugar vasquez will be just as good or better. if you're going to put names like that on your past era list, might as well put zurdo, santa cruz, francisco vargas, salido, miguel vasquez on this era's list.
     
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  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    It's not wise to look at the potential of Mexican future boxing s****om by looking at the amateurs.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    Mexicans never needed a strong amateur circuit.
    The mexicans turned pro at a young age and got experience by having a lot of lower-level fights.
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    60s Vicente Saldivar, Ruben Olivares
    70s Miguel Canto, Carlos Zarate
    80s Salvador Sanchez, Julio Cesar Chavez
    90s Julio Cesar Chavez, Ricardo Lopez
    00s Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rafael Marquez
    10s Juan Francisco Estrada, Saul Alvarez
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't know if it has declined but there used to be a lot more Mexican boxers I was a big fan of before than there are these days. I loved Chavez Snr, Barrera, Morales, Jose Luis Lopez, and JMM among others. These days the only ones I can think of I like off the top of my head are Humberto Soto and Mikey Garcia and the later is obviously Mexican-American.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Less talent.
     
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  10. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think it's fair to say Canelo will never be elite. It all depends on how shopworn he'll be by his late 20's.

    To his credit, he's taken on some terrific competition for the last couple years with vastly different styles. He's a seasoned veteran at this point, and he's only 25 I believe? I favor him to beat Cotto which would give him another title in another weight division.

    Out of all the young fighters out there, Canelo has one of the more promising futures in the sport and is possibly on his way to a HOF type of career.
     
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  11. NUCLEAR

    NUCLEAR Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao happened.
     
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  12. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    They started getting some super comfortable stools to quit on. Yeah Junior, we're all looking at you!
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It has fallen of somewhat.
     
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  14. The Smoking Man

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    Is it becuase there all playing soccer?
     
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  15. Benitom3

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    Dustin. Nichols ate all the burritos
     
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