Why I am 99% sure that Wlad WAS drugged when he fought Brewster

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  1. galtone

    galtone Member Full Member

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    The bookies have an expression that demonstrates EXACTLY why it is highly likely that Wlad WAS poisoned. The expression is "You can't hide the money!".

    No matter how clever criminals are at fixing college basketball games, for example, sooner or later the criminal HAS to do one thing. He MUST do this one thing, or there was no point in criminally fixing the game. The one thing he MUST do is......BET MONEY ON THE FIXED GAME. 'No point in fixing the game if you're not going to put big money on the game......and once the money appears, the bookies know instantly that something unusual is happening, since they know very well roughly how much is normally bet on certain types of games...or fights......and how the bets are normally distributed between the favorite and the underdog.

    If all the Vegas bookies combined normally take, for example, a total of between $300,000 and $500,000 on a minor-level college hoops game, and suddenly strangers are turning up all over Vegas betting huge amounts on a favorite to not cover the Vegas spread, the bookies sit up and pay attention. The easiest fix in hoops is for the favorites to agree to win, but not cover. They still go home with the W on their record, but don't win by enough to cover the spread. So if suddenly there is $4 MILLION bet on the sort of game that normally only gets 1/10th that much action, and it's all on the favorite to not cover, the books know before the game even STARTS that something is rotten.

    If then, during the game, there are a lot of suspicious missed free throws, fouls, etc, and sure enough the favorites win but fail to cover, the books don't NEED any other evidence...they KNOW they were screwed by a fixed game. People who don't really understand the betting business might not be sure, but the books are sure...because money doesn't lie.

    In the case of the Wlad/Brewster fight, the books knew before the fight even started that there was a good chance that something criminal was afoot. Odds do NOT drop from 11 to 1, all the way down to just over 3 to 1 in just a day or two. That requires very, very large amounts of money, ALL coming in on the underdog....in this case, Brewster. There was NO news, and NO developments of any kind that could have justified this sudden appearance of huge amounts of money for Brewster. For example, there has been a drop in the odds on the Tyson Fury/Derrick Chisora fight, but everyone knows the REASON for this, and the reason is that Chisora has inexplicably come in 15 pounds over weight and people rightfully wonder if he is really coming to win. But even in this case, the odds have only dropped SLIGHTLY, despite there being a very, very good REASON for a drop in odds.....the favorite coming in soft and apparently out of shape.

    For the odds on Brewster against Wlad to drop from +1100 all the way down to +350 or so is virtually unprecedented in boxing betting history. And again, there was NO reason for this to happen...Wlad wasn't overweight, sick with flu.....nothing. It almost would have been a surprise after betting activity that suspicious if the fight had gone NORMALLY.

    Sure enough....miracle of all miracles....the fight went exactly how you would EXPECT a fight to go on which there was hugely suspicious betting activity in favor of the underdog. The favorite (Wlad) looked sick and disoriented, and was acting strangely from the start.

    Even overlooking all other aspects that look odd..... the fact that an outsider apparently was given an all-access pass.....the mysteriously destroyed blood samples from Wlad (that would have been concrete evidence against the fixers) being suddenly destroyed.....overlooking ALL of that.....the one thing remains. The thing that bookies know better than anyone. You almost know when a fix is in BEFORE the game/fight even starts. Because......YOU CAN'T HIDE THE MONEY.

    This doesn't mean Brewster was in on it...in fact I doubt very much that he would have been. Brewster was and is a nice guy, a stand up guy. But he wouldn't NEED to be in on it. One or two rotten apples somewhere close to the fight.....that's all it takes. A few drops in the water bottle, or pre-fight meal, and bingo. But the ultimate truth detector in this case is pointing right to GUILTY....and that truth detector is the bookie's favorite old axiom....you simply can not hide the money.
     
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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Wlad taking a dive for money is more logical, or maybe chef put his life savings on brewster and drugged wlad pre fight or maybe he just got ****ed up because he has a bad chin and bad style back then and betters realized this.
     
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  3. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad trashed him in the rematch and u still mad?
     
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  4. TheDon

    TheDon KO Artist Full Member

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    Interesting read, suprisingly.

    Seems that, if the betting pattern is true, there was probably something suspicious with the fight. Did Wlad throw it or did Brewsters team drug him, we'll never know, but I doubt the win was legit.
     
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  5. FakeBlood

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    You're sort of missing the point. It would have been a third party criminal organisation that would have arranged and benefited from a hypothetical poisoning.
     
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  6. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Because you're 100% delusional.
     
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  7. getup

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    Come on man...ok whyeahat was the enormous amount betted? Did u see the fight? Brew took a beating before he finally ended things...so I doubt he was in on it...2 we have no smoking gun gun big bet....holy was 25-1 when the line opened against tyson...by fight time it was less than 3-1...yeah sure there was alot of movement on the line people bet on the fight...same thing happened here...people bet the longer moved...and boxing is not like most other sports....the amount of money bet on a bout varies greatly from fight to fight...u don't have much evidence for your theory...heil if I was in vegas when wlad-brew was on I would of dropped some coin on brew at 11/1...doubt there was a fix or tamper...
     
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  8. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brewster was almost knocked out in the early rounds, which clearly indicates that the fight wasnt fixed. Notice one thing that Wladimir started that fight very aggressive and went for the KO, something that he doesnt do nowadays. He wasted his energy. Probably thought that Brewster couldnt withstand his assult but he did.
     
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  9. deaman

    deaman Active Member Full Member

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    The conspiracy goes much deeper than that Wlad fans, much deeper indeed.

    They altered Wlads genetics before birth to give him a glass heart, glass chin, and questionable mental fortitude.

    Thus at the precise moment Wlad encountered any adversity, he would crumble.


    Anyways, Wlad wasn't drugged. Get over it.
     
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  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who cares it means nothing now..it has all been rectified..what does anoy me that if indeed the man was drugged that the person doing it should basicly be done for attempted murder...hypathetical ofcourse..but like i said means **** all now
     
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  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Betting patterns are the surest way to spot a fix- in many times, it's the only way. It's not the odds shifting that's the red flag- it's how much, how quick, that close to the fight. Maybe someone was just lucky to have put an assload of cash on a longshot. That does happen from time to time. But I'm not that naive. There's alot of red flags to ignore for one to believe that Brewster-Wlad was 100% on the level, and given the amount of shenanigans the sport's always had and still does, I have a tough time giving it the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  12. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Of Course Wlad was drugged. Anyone who isn't a Wlad hater knows
    this. You don't turn blue and look as if you just climbed mt everest
    from getting tagged clean. You could even see the strange look on
    the refs face when he waved it off. Wlad was dragging himself off
    the canvas looking like he was having a stroke with a dangerously
    looking tint to his skin when the ref had no choice. And, don't give
    me that gassed bull****. A top pro athlete like wlad doesn't gas if the
    5th ****ing round, no matter how many punches he threw. Also, name
    me one time when a fighter in this sports history turned the color Wlad
    did in a fight? Exactly, you CAN'T!!

    Damn, the betting odds. Foul play was in full effect right in front of
    our faces. You either choose to beleive in reality or you choose to
    hate.
     
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  13. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the **** man? This is the second one of these bull**** threads today.

    Many of the Klitchko fans here have been ****ing insufferable since Wlad beat Haye.
     
    Thom, Jul 23, 2011
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  14. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doubters: You really think this guy wouldn't poison someone for the benefit of millions? Someone who cost him tens of millions by not signing with him?
    Not saying King did indeed have something to do with it, just that it would NOT surprise me at all.

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  15. ballznall

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    Not to metion that was the last fight that the klitschkos were fighting under the Universum team....matter of fact I remeber Klaus Peter-Kohl and King sitting next to each other in the front row.I thought that was odd at the time .King also bragged AFTER the fight that he had dropped a load on Brewster.Also 1 week later the sportsbooks would not take bets on the Klitschko-Sanders fight because of the "odd circumstances" in the Brewster fight...?To much smoke in this fight for there not to be foul play.......!
     
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