Why I don't think Pac would beat Floyd right now.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by YCGS, Dec 13, 2013.


  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    when have you ever seen floyd go anywhere remotely close to survival mode ? thats something paq does NOT floyd.

    History shows no one can complete with floyd while it also shows many many fighters can compete and even beat up paq. you will be shocked once you see floyd and manny in the ring after a couple rounds, you will realize how bad of a mismatch this has always been...

    please tell me the difference between paq of 09 and paq of now, i'll help you. back in 09 they were far better at their cherry picking skills.. the paq from the rios fight was the exact same as any 09 version, just rios was much tougher (better chin) than who they cherry picked back then..

    paq never had real WW power, the hatton KO (post 10 rounds of beatings resulting in a KO from floyd) paq landed a perfect shot on hatton yet hasnt hurt a WW since and hardly hurt any before then... they way you think of paq, u make him out to be the most over rated fighter in the history of the sport.

    shot morales whooped him at is own game, after morales just took 2 total beat downs himself.

    paq had 4 FOUR tries and could NOT really beat jmm 1 ONE time.
    his best performances were against marg and rios, 2 punching bags. i'll give him cotto even though he had to drain him and only fought him cause he has NO trainer and his pops just passed, ya great win, i'm sure cottos head was in it with NO trainer and family issues.

    man you are such a clown.
    and Floyd has a way better resume, he had consistently beaten the better tougher fighters..

    who is paq best opponent ? prob jmm, the same dude floyd made look like a C level fighter. his next best was a terribly mentally phuked drained cotto with NO trainer. the same dude floyd beat up a way better version..

    who next, non of his opponents could have competed never mind beat a prime hernandez, chico or a JLC. now take canelo, he would utter destroy anyone paq has stepped foot in the ring with. FACT
     
  2. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the ignorance is incredible. when did he get smoked 4 rounds ? after 4 it was 2/2 and ended up 10/2.. and that was way more competitive than paq would be. paq has NO chance. how would he land anything ? answer me that, when paq gets hit he gets scared to throw shots which has been proven time and time again..

    against any decently skilled boxer paqs output drops about 50%, he looks way slower, much more clumsy and looks a B level fighter.

    not sure you guys even watch any of these matches. if you did you wouldnt be so clueless
     
  3. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :roll:

    Not much really happened in the first 6 rounds and zab didnt win round 3
     
  4. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are so full of **** it is hilarious.

    If Pacquiao doesn't fight well in the clinch, what does that mean you ****ing idiot? HE NEEDS SPACE TO PUNCH "EFFECTIVELY." Does that make it easier for your dumbass to understand? If Pacquiao doesn't fight well in the clinch, how does a "smaller ring" benefit him? It doesn't you ass hat. Pacquiao is an outside/medium range fighter, not an inside one. Pacquiao is not a "pressure fighter" either, stop pretending he is. Ring size would not be a factor, BOXING ABILITY would be.

    What about "Pacquiao can't beat Mayweather on the outside, and Pacquiao gets eaten alive on the inside" do you not understand about this matchup? Yes I put the "far more active than Mayweather" in quotes because how else were you implying he was going to win a decision by "missing punches." Your words, not mine.... Here is your quote: "You honestly believe Pacs work rate will have no effect on Mayweather? Think about the judges for a second... If Pac was throwing (not even necessarily landing) against Floyd you don't think Judges may be swayed" -- The words of an idiot.

    Again I ask: Where was Pacquiao's "work rate" during the Marquez and Bradley fights? Morons like you make me sick, just stfu and stop pretending you actually pay attention when you watch these fights. Pretty clear you only see what you want to see.

    You honestly don't know a ****ing thing about boxing, seriously. The fact you even said "missing punches" could win him a fight on the cards makes you completely ******ed. As if nothing would be coming back at Manny, he's just going to fire away at Mayweather and have a huge advantage in punches thrown. So ******ed I can't stop laughing.

    And to further illustrate who is actually right in this conversation: Who would be the overwhelming betting favorite in Vegas if they fight? Mayweather, and the size of the ring would have nothing to do with it. And if anybody says different they are equally as ******ed as you are.
     
  5. tennis

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    Well f castillos body punches stopped floyd from being able to move

    Of cottos body punches stopped floyd from moving

    Then how can anyone say floyd will dance around the ring

    How can floyd be the most accurate of all time if Castillo outlanded him and was more accurate on the night? Hmmm....
     
  6. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post...This myth that pac was some monster in 09 needs to stop. People dont put into context the guys he fought. As soon as he got back in there with Juan he didnt look so good. Anybody that moves cuts his workrate in half.
     
  7. StreetsofRAGE

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    They could fight on Mars and Floyd would still school his ass. Been saying it since the fight was first brought up many years ago.
     
  8. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This post was so fuc*ing dumb I had to respond. A small ring doesn't mean clinch fighting you fuc*ing ******. Pac does fight at medium range... and that can be done in a small ring you dumb fu*k. Did Lara clinch vs Angulo in a small ring? No... he was simply forced to engage. Jesus Christ you are dense. You've never competed in a ring that is crystal clear.

    Again, you are an idiot if you can't see that if one fighter (not necessarily pac or floyd) was throwing a lot of shots that had a low connect rate vs someone turtling or being defensive and sparingly throwing that a judge would, or at least could score the round for them. It has happened MANY times. Is it always fair? No but it happens ******. Watch Paul Williams vs Lara you dumba**. I'm not saying it is FAIR, but IT HAPPENS. When I say missing punches, I'm implying that they don't land clean and are picked off... I assumed you were fu*king smart enough to know that but it looks like I was wrong. Did you honestly think I meant missing into thin air?

    Pacs work rate during the Bradley fight? He threw over 750 punches which isn't volume punching but it's above the average. Pac doesn't throw pitty pat punches like Timmy does either. He isn't a one punch KO guy but every shot is fast, with good power.

    "And to further illustrate who is actually right in this conversation:" <-- probably the dumbest thing I've read in a long time... these are opinions and we are talking about a hypothetical situation, so how can one of us be right?? Of course Floyd would be the betting favorite, what does that prove? So that guarantees that Roy Jones beats Tarver in their 2nd fight? Or that Tyson was gonna kill Douglas? How about Lucas destroying Danny Garcia? Those worked out well didn't they? Also:

    NEVER EVER DID I EVER SAY PAC WOULD WIN. EVER. Read the title d*ckface. I said Pac would look best in a small ring.

    You honestly can't see any challenges that Manny presents? A shot Cotto gave Mayweather a bit of trouble... It doesn't occur to you that Manny might be able to pose problems? You aren't as smart as you think you are, Floyd has only fought in a clinch when his slower opponents would come in and bully him. If anything Floyd would stay in the pocket and trade and try to use movement unless somehow Manny was able to give him some trouble, then Floyd would probably adjust. The difference between you and I is that even though I think Floyd wins, I can be objective and you have proven over and over that you can't be.

    FYI, you called Bradley a counter puncher....lol who dksab? You apparently. Bradley is not a counter puncher... not even close.
     
  9. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    lmao. pac shatters floyd glass jaw.

    doenst matter what the ring size bec floyd can not move for 36 mins at high pace.

    if he doesnt fight pac, he will go down as the coward who refused to fight a midget.