Why I think Mosley has a genuine chance

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  1. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    God I f****g hope so!!
     
  2. Scratch2win28

    Scratch2win28 Member Full Member

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    Yes, it was on G-UNIT radio.
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Mosley's greatest strength will be his combinations, workrate, handspeed and Naseem Richardson.

    People are overrating the power, its not that important. But the good thing is I know Naseem isnt planning on trying to KO floyd because that would be a terrible strategy. If it comes, it comes but its unlikely.

    I think Floyd wins UD but maybe Naseem could surprise us. DLH did well and mainly from the body punching and jab but also because Floyd doesnt put together much combinations and he couldnt hurt DLH at 154. Naseem needs to come up with a way to outwork PBF and win the rounds on activity because floyd doesnt throw enough combinations and he doesnt have the power to hurt or drop shane. If Naseem can keep shane active all 12 and throwing combinations like he use to then they have a chance.

    Coincidentally I see it being similar to the strategy Pac would need to beat Floyd. Lots of movement and combinations focusing on speed and not KO power.



    Thats really the main strategy I see for beating Floyd. The only other one would be someone with good reach and a good jab, someone like Winky, Hearns, Forrest but I dont see anyone that fits that mold today so workrate and combinations it is. Solid defense would also help as well as a good inside game. Judah won some opening rounds with the jab but when floyd switched it up and started backing him up Judah couldnt deal with it. Winky would be perfect to UD floyd cause of his tight defense and size.

    Pac and shane cant fall into the trap of dropping their output because theyre afraid of getting countered because Shane and Pac arent going to outbox PBF they have to outwork him and risk the counters.
     
  4. Scratch2win28

    Scratch2win28 Member Full Member

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    So tell me this, Who fights like they have more experience Floyd or Shane?
     
  5. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    DLH hit floyd a few times, didnt hurt him. Corely stunned Floyd and backed him up on the ropes but he was unable to land a single flush follow up shot. The only real benefit of shanes power is that if they trade floyd will be outgunned and shane has a good chin. So I think focus on a high work rate is key. But backing up floyd to the ropes is no guarantee of anything because floyd is great on the ropes and great with sticking up the shoulder and elbow so he doesnt allow flush shots.

    I think Pac has a better chance than mosley because he is younger, his stamina is probably better at this point and his legs and movement are better.

    But if shane keeps the work rate up and doesnt mind a counter landing he can get the judges attention because he has more power and if they land enough they will notice his punches have more effect than PBF's.

    But I think PBF's accuracy will probably be a problem and over time shane will be hesitant to open up and get drawn into fighting Floyds fight allowing him to get the UD.
     
  6. elTerrible

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    Theyre both experienced, theyre both pros. No matter what they tell you about not watching tapes or watching them they are both familiar with each others styles. Its going to come down to physical talents and abilities and at this point Floyd has more of that than 38 year old shane.
     
  7. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Highly improbable but not impossible to win!
    With his age..winning over pbf is like winning a lotto! Not impossible to win by highly improbable!
     
  8. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that was a terrific opening post Popkins. Well thought out. Good job. I think you are right on pretty much all accounts. I also think Floyd will win, but I give Mosley more than just a puncher's chance.
     
  9. slick willie

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    The only shots that will hurt Floyd are the ones he doesn't see coming and this is rarely the case. Chop-chop's shot buckled Floyd because he was throwing his own right and Floyd anticipated to beat him to the punch but Chop got lucky (if you correctly analyze this fight, you'll agree Corley got lucky with the punch because other than that, he got outclassed)

    Shane is not a counter-puncher and won't be able to capitalize when Floyd attacks.
     
  10. teeto

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    Mayweather will win imo, i don't see it as unfolding as a difficult fight for him personally. He's simply too good a boxer and varied for Mosley. At some stages of the fight Mosley might look bland for thoughts in my opinion.
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree mostly.... but like you say, the smart money points to a UD in FMJs favour.

    Ps. I dont agree that Mayweather beat the same version that fought Forbes & Pacquiao... if your talking time frame then yes but if your talking about how healthy, strong etc. that Hoya was on each individual night then its clear as day that the Hoya that fought Floyd at 154 lbs was producing his last great performance - & at his most comfortable weight were as he was practically dead vs Forbes & Pacquiao, Forbes just did not have the ability to expose this to the extent Pacquiao did tho.
     
  12. Pinker182

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    Hi ive been a big boxing fan for 2 and half years now, i ve only watched the mayweather corley fight on youtube or on the itunes greatest hits which is pretty bias for mayweather, does anyone have a lnk to the video where mayweather gets wobbled? I did also notice in the Marquez fight that he was hit flush in the face twice and it was strange to watch as its such a rare sight, i love floyd, but i believe he will be on the defensive all night and will win 8-4 UD on all cards...hopefully he may engage more, he may have to, i wouldnt mind to see him recieve a flash knockdown then get up and dominate mosely, people lately say the fight reminds them of Tarver - Jones II in regards to the heavy KO, but i really really doubt anything like this will happen
     
  13. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Mosley most likely will land at least one decent punch if the bout goes 12 rounds, will Mayweather take it? No-one knows. Mayweather will most likely land at least one decent punch in the 12 rounds? Will Mosley take it? No-one knows.

    Although you make some very goods points, it all comes down to the randomness of boxing when it comes to taking a punch. Was Rahman expected to knock Lewis out? Lewis has taken better shots than that.

    I don't know if anyone else seen this, in the De la Hoya Mayweather bout, Mayweather used De la Hoya's momentum (example Pacquiao v Hatton) whilst his back was against the ropes, and caught De la Hoya with a right hand that took his legs, and De la Hoya nearly went down. It just shows, anything can happen in boxing, if you hit someone in the right place, they will go down.
     
  14. Cocteau

    Cocteau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your analysis is like saying: Everyone has a chance because life has full of uncertainties and surprises.

    Well, Floyd can take punches else ODLH / Hatton / Judah has KO'd him by now - those fighters has connected more than one clean punches. Mosley fans are blowing the power and size gap. Bear in mind that Floyd has fought in 154 too. ODLH and Hatton can't out-wrestle Floyd on most ocassions in their fight. Shane only got a "1 height advantage, and a "1 reach disadvantage (Floyd's reach is a bit longer). It's not like Shane can bully FMJ, Floyd is a slick black man who's relatively the same size.
     
  15. horst

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    It isn't anything even like that.

    Mosley's chance is on account of his own attributes. Had Floyd been fighting some of the other names mooted for this fight (ie Nate Campbell, Malignaggi etc), then there would be no uncertainty whatsoever, they would be getting destroyed without the faintest whiff of a hope in hell.