why in the hell are y'all shocked porter lost...dont forget

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  1. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Yea Porter seemed pretty explosive and overly aggressive most of the times, like a watered down version of Mosley. Diaz was able to make him pay for his mistakes in the first fight and Alexander was getting beat to the punch couldn't handle Porters aggression. Maidana was barely learning how to jab with Garcia and wasn't even really trying to pressure Alexander he was trying to outbox a boxer which was a bad idea, slow as ****, not long before that he got smacked around by el zombie Morales too. Now tho, Maidana has combined both elements, you going to tell me he gave the best boxer in the world a helluva almost beating him, now he's going to lose to 2nd, 3rd tier boxers like Alexander. Gtfo with that doo doo!
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is said after the event and I doubt you would have done a thread saying im shocked Brook lost.
    I wasnt shocked, I did a prediction thread, predicting Brook.
    Here is some of the thread details below

    Porter is an undefeated world champ. Look at who Porter has fought and beaten.
    Alexander who was exposed when fighting at European level against Kotelnik
    Malignaggi who when thrown in deep at European level was stopped.

    Now Porter will be thrown in at European level, which will seem deeper waters than he has had to swim in before.

    If Brook boxes in the slick European style, It will be a long night for Porter and the title changing hands.

    Brook is also undefeated, has boxed at the top European level and we saw his level, when he destroyed Malignaggis biggest win in 4 rounds.

    I pick Brook to turn up the heat and against the odds, pull off the upset, which will only be an upset to casual fans, and win with ease.
    Dont be shocked if Brook scores a sensational stoppage
     
  3. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    this is what im saying.

    corpsejr is never that good, only carefully matched.

    no atg in his prime at the right weight class in his resume.

    no williams, martinez, margo, younger mosley, younger dela hoya, even younger cotto.

    since unretirement, steady diet of bums and washedups, if not bloated and handicapped.


    he outconditions his opponents as much as he outboxes them.

    he shells up when is attacked, so against someone who can attack for 12 rounds, like a castillo, he was lost.

    put williams, margo, pac, martinez, all with excellent stamina, younger dela hoya, maybe a roided mosley, younger undefeated cotto is ,aybe 50/50.
     
  4. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You make some valid points but you make the mistake to take Garcia out of the equation. Maidana footwork, balance and jab improved a lot under Garcia's guidance.
     
  5. Boxer777

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    A trainer can only make marginal improvements and give the proper gameplans. It can't make the fighter 100% better. Maybe 20%-50% better by refining their techniques, but it's really up to the fighter.

    Maidana has displayed the qualities you've mentioned way before Garcia started training him. Look at the Khan fight. His jab was good and his footwork was good.

    When he fought Lopez and Karass, nobody was too impressed with him. In fact, he got hurt pretty bad against Lopez.

    He looked good against Broner because of styles. Broner doesn't throw anything when the other fighter is throwing, making it easy for Maidana to overwhelm him. Floyd has a similar style. He run to the ropes and cover up, instead of countering. Floyd allowed himself to get taken advantage of.

    With or without Garcia, Maidana still loses to Alexander by wide UD.
     
  6. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Styles make fights he is a great champion hopefully he learns from this, adjusts, and grows.


    No harm, No foul....

    People didnt expect him to loose because of hose dominating his last 2 performances were.


    I look forward to seeing him back in the ring
     
  7. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    that's the problem with these fools nowadays...1 good fight vs a guy on his way out, and all of a sudden he's the next great thing....it takes years and many fights to convince a real fan that you're going to be something great....same thing with broner...I told y'all he was garbage since I was there live when ponce outboxed him.....but the litzau victory had everyone going wild.......now look at him
     
  8. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    porter will always be a super poor mans version of mosley....like super poor