Why is Aaron Pryor so highly rated ?

Pryor beats chavez

 

Maybe, but if so only because Chavez lost some at 140. I think Chavez' body attack, stamina and workrate would give him a good chance of prevailing.

 

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He's a definite ATG.

Retired undefeated champ at 36-0 (32 KOs).

Was an absolute beast and had a couple of epic battles with Alexis Arguello.



But, like many another, tried for a comeback, and just wasn't the same the second time around.

With the possible exception of Tszyu and JCC, greatest ever at 140 lb.


I remember standing outside a TV shop watching through the glass window (couldn't hearHarry Carpentar commentary !) as he stopped Alexis. I was hoping Alexis could pick up a title at another weight, but it was not to be. Now they're both in that big gym upstairs. RIP)

 

He was then and is now overrated by those who will not look at him objectively.....he did not start cocaine one day and check out he was a coke user during his career much like the fighters of old when it was an elixir for vigor and vitality and by the way legal then and very popular during Pryors heyday (Remember Dokes getting KO'd by Coetzee on Coke) alot of fighters were using it from inner cities......He was not feared at 135 he was not feared at 147 his manager moved him into the weakest division he could fight in and he beat a who's who of guys without the discipline to make 135 or not good enough to compete at 147. I watched him and kept trying to figure out what it was people were impressed with his power was OK not great he was a volume puncher his defense sucked and his chin stuck in the air to be hit questionable without Panama Lewis...

Just watch DuJuan Johnson faceplant him and how he jumped up like a line of coke jolted through him......if Johnson was a more seasoned better fighter he would have finished him but lacked the experience, maturity and instincts to finish it. He was carefully matched to the title in a weak division against lesser fighters no different than the way Wolf matched Mancini. He was offered fights with SRL and Duran and he didn't want real fights he wanted Mancini a smaller limited fighter his explanations and excuses for not taking those other fights are part of his myth. Look at his opponents either they were starved down to 140 from 147+ like a good friend of mine did when he fought him or lazy lightweights. He fought Arguello who stepped up one step too heavy and the Panama Lewis potion is what won the fights.....AA was a spent fighter within the next few fights after a long long career he was basically spent after the 1st fight. Too much is made of the amateur fight with Hearns when Tommy was a skinny 132lb unpolished non power punching teenager far from the Welterweight man he became and the power and strength he had as a pro. What he had going for him was extra energy running through his system and moving constantly he was nothing special skill wise, feet were average, not real fast, didn't hit extra hard, bad defense

 

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Saying Pryor "retired" undefeated is a nice way to put it. I forgot my keys in the Crack house, well while I'm here let me try to a hit. Being a "Coke User" isn't in the same Galaxy as being a full blown Crack head. That is what Aaron was.
If he had only been snorting powder like many athletes it would have caught up with him eventually but he wouldn't have just fell off a cliff and stopped fighting. He would have been able to continue his career.

 

This is a 100% hit job. I dont have him up with the greatest either because he didn't do enough but be serious. It doesn't make any sense.

 

Explains your entire lie filled uninformed seriously jealous tantrum. Maybe you should pick friends who are winners and can fight instead of losers like yrself.

 

Yes I am well aware you know where free base comes from right??? he was a habitual drug user and it wasn't new to him when he actually started using crack is beside the point and not certain regardless of what you think their are crack users in sports his career is tainted with cheating and even with the advantage of cocaine he wasn't that great

 

Well this friend was undefeated until he got involved with Don King and turned down his offer suddenly he is getting opportunities like fighting Johnny Lira 140 and Aaron Pryor 140 or Don Lee 160 yes the guy that fought Hagler a 20 lb weight swing difference in opponents at last minute opportunities in or out of training....I'm sorry if he was a loser but friends are friends besides I know the fight game and even the best talents can lose if set up......the fight game is dirty face it or do you think everything is on the up and up....OH by the way what were your accomplishments???with Pryor it was a fight he was offered at 150 lbs when he showed up at the airport he was picked up along with the other fighters by Don King in his limo when he got to the hotel King as ked him how much he weighed he said "150" King said 150? I said 140! if you can't make 140 the fight is off and you will need to find your own way home because I said 140 which he did not say....Carl then ran and sweated all night long until he made 140 an hour before the fight he climbed in the ring with Pryor and took a knee in the 1st round unhurt but drained....I know in your minds all fights are on the up and up but this is an old trick to screw a fighter who will not play ball....Pryor was not great he was taken care of by his promoter and manager but he was an average talent with the elixir to cheat his way past honest fighters......I would think a fan would be upset about such a thing know their hero was a fluke

 

What doesn't make any sense getting dropped multiple times by no name fighters or hitting them solidly over and over until they finally go down rounds later...none of his opponents until he fought Arguello were capable of a world ranking in any other weight they just weren't that good hence the fighting at 140 instead of the quality above and below............have you guys even watched his fights other than Arguello or his opponents other fights??this was my era of fighting and he wasn't highly regarded by fighters per sey at least the fighters I knew especially the ones who knew the game but he got a helluva a push by promoters and his all action style was entertaining but he was not the talent of a Rosario and would not have beaten a Bramble even I suggest you guys actually watch his fights and really objectively watch him and research his opponents.

 

Carl Crowley was a terrible fighter. That card was put together by Bob Elbaum not king who by the way was in Montreal Quebec Canada because Pryor Crowley was the live fight at Riverfront Colosseum in Cincy before the big screen came on and showed Sugar Ray Leonard vs. ROBERTO Duran. It was June 20, 1980. I was there to see the Duran fight live on bigscreen closed circuit. Crowley got destroyed. YOU WHOLE STORY IS A LIE! Btw, King promoted Aaron for 1 fight (Blackmoor), then released him from his contract because he said Pryor was driving him crazy. YOU are a liar. Probably a scaflaw too. You and your fantasies will now go back on ignore.

 

It was for sure.

 

The two Arguello kos cemented his status.

But, the first one is controversial to most observers because of his sudden explosion after drinking from the black bottle, "the one I mixed" given him by the notoriously corrupt Panama Lewis.