Why is Aaron Pryor so highly rated ?

Pretty sure he could have beaten all those guys pretty easily except maybe Mamby. Pryor-Mamby in '80-81 would have been a great matchup.

He would have boxed circles around Billy Costello, at least until early '84. Pryor was past peak after that due to drugs and inactivity.

See Costello-Lonnie Smith for evidence of what prime Pryor would do to Costello.

KO rated him #1 at 140 lbs. from the time he beat Cervantes in Aug. 1980 until 1984.

 

Carl was a good fighter who was set up to be an opponent after he turned down the contract......why was he wanted for a contract? He was white and could fight and he was drained to fight Pryor at 140 when he was a welter/jrmiddleweight, unemployed and out of training....I saw the tape of the fight.....he was shot and weak going into it. He became a journey man because of turning down the opportunity. Pryor MGMT was not going to ge him into the ring with a live fighter trained and ready if they are the A side and can dictate the terms. You are right it wasn't King that time.....Pryor was a smoke and mirrors fighter and you bought it like a fool....since the Duran Leonard fight was in NOV of 80 how did you watch both fights on JUN of 80?

The facts are Pryor would not move up or down to fight anyone he tried to make his fortune on his terms by forcing everyone to come to him he was content @140 but not a great fighter he just never fought the decent fighters

 

I feel like someone out there would’ve done him like Danny Garcia did to Matthysse, but he retained his aura since he vanished in a crack haze before it could happen.

 

Well Nancy, fact is, you are wrong again. The first Leonard/DURAN fight was June 20, 1980. It being YOUR time and all, how come you don't know this? Because, just like I proved, you ARE A LIAR AND REALLY DO NOT KNOW BOXING HISTORY. Your buddy's effort was so pathetic, they almost held his purse. Pryor was an alltime great, Crowley a cowardly bum. Btw, Pryor was a 135 pound lightweight when he fought your horizontal homie and moved up to fight the great Cervantes. Please reply again with more incorrect statements. This is to easy boy. Kinda like I'm Pryor and you're Crowley ! !!!!!!

 

The mprlocks

 

Ok now you are showing how little you understand the dirty side of the sport Carl was a good fighter he was denied access to good managers and promoter top cover and matching in his favor he never got turning down a contract all his fights post undefeated early were last minute with no prep and at weights as high as 160+ and as low as 140-......

Crowley was not cowardly and not a bum his career was wrecked when he turned down a contract because he was a white fighter with skills.....I know you are unfamiliar with the dirty side of boxing but there is one and all it takes is to think you can make it without protection.....Carl and his brother Tom believed this because they were good prospects...what they did not know was how their careers would go after turning it down.....he was not able to get scheduled fights but when he got fights they were last minute against mid level and or rated fighters in weights ranging from 140- and as high as 160+ his natural best weight was 147-154 at his heaviest when he got fights they would be phone calls a few days before without knowing who the opponent was......he did get a a little more notice when he fought Lira but next to none when he fought Pryor or Lee or Costello and any other fighter whom was building their records. Don Lalonde seemed to think highly of Carl and he knew the deal with him and his setups. Carl when he would take fights not knowing the opponent was nearly always when he was without a job and desperate for a payday.....I know you know nothing about how the fight game works but fighters are commodities and usually have investors, trainers, managers, promoters....if the fighter is marketable these investments require certain assurances to get them to the big money....no it is not a conspiracy it is a reality the matching of a fighter to get them to where they want them to be requires name opponents with known weaknesses, bad habits, complimenting styles and a name.....So celebrate your fighter but it should raise a question as to why Pryor was so carefully matched and why Carl would need to be in that bad of a position to take a last minute fight for them to pick his name out of a hat like that????

 

Your guy had multiple losses to less-than-journeymen before that.

If anyone was fooled by smoke and mirrors, sorry to say it’s you, pal, for thinking Carl was anything more than his record suggests.

If he took a fight against a lightweight thinking it was at 150 pounds, he’s an idiot. If he didn’t want to weight drain or fight middleweights, no law on earth forced him to take fights he didn’t want. He’d have been better off taking whatever ‘contract’ he’s got you believing he was offered or getting a regular job, because absolutely NOTHING in his record suggests he was even close to world class.

He won his first 11 fights and the BEST of that lot was 4-1. He lost to a 7-3 guy in the Holiday Inn in Memphis ... exaclty what promoter would bother setting up a guy to lose a fight like that? You think someone wasted their money to ‘teach him a lesson’ by putting him in with 7-3 and 2-2 guys and the likes? He didn’t even win a lot of his matchups against opponents like that, much less have any wins over contenders, prospects or even suspects.

 

Nice bottle mix helped him against Arguello.

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Because he is better than what he faced.

 

because he trounced Arguello and Cervantes and beat Hearns just before turning pro

plus, leonard ducked him in his prime

 

you're ignorant

He challenged Leonard, remember? and didnt get an answer

"Benitez"

after demolishing Arguello?

you're a clown

 

Leonard fought and beat bigger and better fighters than Pryor. Why would he be scared of Pryor?

Was a smaller aging arguello better than a prime Benitez?

 

We both know what comes next hahaha

 

Wrong!!! Ray offered him the fight and he turned it down

 

I posted in here years ago from a written source that Pryor and Leonard had come to terms before his eye retirement. Leonard was to fight Roger Stafford and then he and Pryor were going to get it on.