Why is Aaron Pryor so highly rated ?

All over the map?

someone like lalonde can get an offer for millions without even asking for it

Pryor? he doesnt want pocket change for a fat uninspired Duran when he can have Leonard

but leonard wanted Pryor as much as he wanted Micheal Nunn or Marvin Hagler before a Baltimore audience

You know what "it'll never happen" really means, right?

it means,'so long as you are a threat to me, you will never have an opportunity to fight me'

and judging by the chin he showed in the Howard fight, it's a good thing he never faced Pryor b/c Ap would have been all over him

and never would have made it out with Hagler (or Nunn)

 

WTF? Are you suggesting that SRL was the promoter and was the one offering the money or are you saying that SRL negotiated the terms and offered Pryor the guy dropped by men smaller and far less power than Duran or SRL or Hearns or Hagler or even Kalule a paltry 500,000 so that Pryor could turn it down and save face??? Man that is some insane reasoning and it just tells me you have only watched the Arguello fights and not the rest of the his fights oh....did anyone mention that Arguello was at the end of his career and had been his best at 126/130?? Pryor would have been better moving down to 135 and fighting the names down there instead of the weak 140lbs and then crying that he couldn't get any fights he had not even done enough to warrant a 135lb shot the 140 division was weaker than the 135 in talent and he would have been lucky to get a shot with the talent at 135 and certainly would not have been undefeated....Ramirez, Rosario, Ganigan, O'Grady, Kenty, Bramble, Crawley, Brown, Mancini, Arroyo were alot better than the guys Pryor fought at 140. Had Arguello fought Pryor honestly no cocaine he would have wrecked him but just when Pryor was coming off his high and losing steam the black bottle popped up.

I got news for you when a fighter is offered money it is not the other fighter offering it unless he is the promoter and if Pryor was a hot commodity the fight would have been made for whatever price he was worth in this case he was not worth a bigger purse the other fighter comes in when negotiating the purse split, gate etc....sometimes a fighter manager will suggest a fight to a promoter or beg for a fight with someone that will put asses in seats this is a business first kid and money talks....Duran would have killed Pryor in 3-4 rounds Hearn's would have waxed him in....Pryor's people knew it hence turning that fight down also and Duran was a far more powerful and better fighter all the way around he had real power that could spark a fighter early or late unlike Pryor who stuck his chin in the air got dropped way too often for a great fighter and used his cocaine fueled legs to move constantly teeing off on fighters with his best shots and only after teeing off with hundreds of cocaine fueled punches did he stop fighters....but you believe that SRL feared Pryor so he fought hands of stone instead???? You guys must use the same dealer that had Pryor smoking crack.

The sad thing about stupid fans is a guy like Pryor was a gutsy, tough entertaining fighter and pretty good most of us enjoyed Pryor he was fun but he wasn't great......its stupid fanboys that make us have to go on the attack to bring the truth back to earth.....he had a notorious cheater in Panama Lewis working his corner who was eventually banned for life, his dubious in ring high energy insanity made sense after the exposure....he wasn't a non stop fighter like Armstrong or Mancini he was a hyped coke head jumping around the ring like someone jacked up on well.....Coke. He fought a teenage skinny, underfed, non punching weakling speedster in Hearns who when he turned pro matured into a muscular 1 punch assassin against men as heavy as middleweight in the ring.....Pryor never fought that Hearns he fought the boy version....but dumb fans bring it up.....its idiot fans who turn a fighter into a myth with unreal exaggerated stories that make no sense and look for the conspiracy that kept Pryor from the overly protected SRL?

 

No offense but,, who cares about this sh*t? ^

 

that's the thing, Leonard is NOT a promoter

what's he doing making offers to another fighter?

Did Ali make an offer to Foreman, or Frazier?

which is precisely why I say the offer is a ploy and makes perfect sense

instead of all this bulls*t with mindless ESB posters coming up with new angles to defend his reluctance to fight anyone unless their names are Howard or Lalonde

and did I mention you dont know what the XXXX youre talking about when it comes to Arguello - Pryor?

hell, you dont even know how to tell a LIE! Expecting me to believe a claim from a total stranger because "what are the chances he'd remember what the odds were?"

Sucker, you blew it

You werent even around to realize your mistake because it was Arguello who was favored to win

you dumb twit!

and here you are FAULTING Aaron for moving up to fight a guy that didnt have the nerve to take the fight

Now that IS backwards!

and you think your opinion deserves respect?

seriously, you're an idiot and a major portion of your argument is built upon a lie which I just exposed

Now,,
Aaron destroys Arguello who was favored yet you want me to believe fat, pudgy Duran destroys Aaron in four. How's he going to do that?

what Duran fights have YOU been watching?

Duran would be lucky to keep up with him for ten, let alone get a points win Mr. "I got news for you"

well, I think I've exhausted my well of sarcasm for now. Next time you want to debate, come back when you get to be a MAN!

 

Non taken .. your Ray ducking theory is something that no one gives a sh*t about

''Leonard owes me one,'' said Pryor, who has said he is convinced that Leonard, the undisputed welterweight champion, will announce tomorrow night that he will continue fighting and that Aaron Pryor is the man he most wants to fight.

Earlier this year, Leonard's lawyer, Mike Trainer, had agreed on a fall match against Pryor. The junior welterweight champion was heading for Buffalo, where Leonard was scheduled to meet Roger Stafford last March, when he heard the news on his car radio: Leonard had a detached retina and his career was in doubt. Pryor, who had reached the outskirts of Cleveland, pulled to the side of the road and cried.

''I'm just like Joe Btsfplk with a cloud over my head,'' he said, referring to the forlorn character from the L'il Abner comic strip. Only a week ago, Pryor was not sure that his long-awaited major fight would not be called off in a legal dispute he has been having with LaRosa. The manager had no intention of stopping the fight, but he did file a suit to see a copy of the contract to discover how much Pryor was getting.

 

Jeeeez you an The Moronlocks are like special needs kids unreasonable and delusional.....Pryor was not a dangerous big man he wasn't causing fear in any welterweights and no promoter thought he was worth a big payday he had no draw ability.....SRL feared Pryor LOLOLOLOL.....were you even around when Pryor was pimping himself selling his bull**** to try and TALK his way into a big money fight??? he couldn't and more importantly did not even challenge any ranked welterweights to earn a shot...Duran fought up in weight throughout his 135 reign and did beat up welterweights and jrwelterweights before fighting SRL he proved he was a legit 147 fighter by beating Carlos Palomino a former champion what did Pryor do to earn it....that's right he thought he was entitled and didn't have to prove anything he just wanted a shot against the biggest name in boxing without ever beating a ranked welterweight......Duran fights than make me think he kills Pryor?

Duran-Buchanan
Duran-DeJesus
Duran-Lampkin
Duran-Bizzaro
Duran-Viruet
Duran-Fernandez
Duran-Palomino
Duran-Wheatley
Duran-SRL 1
Duran-Minchillo
Duran-Cuevas
Duran-Moore
Duran-Barkley

Now I suggest you guys get off the pipe

 

that all you got: " get off the pipe"

first of all, you have no credibility

and you know why?

your line gave you away "Arguello was at the end of his career"

fact: Arguello was ranked over Hagler in the p4p ratings

so how was he at the end of his career?

now, seeing as how this statement of yours is nowhere near true, why would anyone take you serious?

I dont

come back to me in a few years when you get to be a MAN!

 

I'm sorry mate but when you have to go thru all this explaining to explain away Leonard backing away from a face to face challenge, it means you're having real trouble

nice try though

 

Aaron Pryor was a lightweight who couldn't get a shot at any of the champions at `35. He was good enough to jump up to `40 and win the title. He was a helluva boxer at `40. I don't think at 5-6 he could have beaten Ray Leonard and those other classy Welterweights. That was a tough era.

He could be a great lightweight and still not be good enough to beat Ray Leonard. That was probably the case. If he was fighting today I don`t think he would have a problem with the current crop of 147lbers

 

Lol now That was funny! KUDOS

 

Look man the contract was signed. Anyway, You and I are actually on the same page!!! I totally agree with you on how Ray went about his biz in the 80's was not cool which I have stated in other threads. All you need to do is switch gears and talk about how he avoided Hearns for 8 years, and we'll be good

 

Easy there. I said I didn't think Leonard ducked Hagler

But many over the years have posited that he did - especially seeing that he did eventually fight Hagler in '87 when Hagler was no longer prime. I was just playing Devil's advocate.

Certainly there was more speculation at the time and later of Leonard ducking Hagler than Leonard ducking Pryor.

There is very little logic involved in thinking Leonard ducked Pryor, but then, again, Rooster is the one pushing that narrative, so... ...

 

Well - I'm not particularly concerned with how one refers to Leonard's actions, in regards to a potential Hagler fight in the early '80s, but there was a sense it would happen. Otherwise, why would Leonard go to all that trouble to state that it wasn't going to happen?

Why mention it, at all?

 

Expanding a bit on some of the theories from a few here, I think I've pieced together a much larger scale conspiracy.

Pryor never fought Hagler, did he? Or Spinks. This is irrefutable proof they ducked him. There is no other argument.