Why is Alexander fighting Kotelnik (Khan's leftovers) as a main fight.

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  1. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Khan is a far bigger name than Mitchell, so please explain how Katsidis should then be in contention to earn more (than the Mitchell fight) against him?

    £400,000 is a very good offer. I'd like to see him try and get a better number elsewhere
     
  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    His fans aren't criticizing Alexander's choice of opponent, only one of them are.
     
  3. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He probably wants to make a statement by beating him in a better fashion than Khan did. Setting up comparisons like that is great PR.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Wait a minute, are you saying that Katsidis should get paid less to fight Khan than he did to fight Mitchell? You said it yourself, Khan is a much bigger name than Mitchell. That means it would be a bigger fight and Katsidis should get more money than he did against Mitchell. And Casa confirmed that his offer from Khan is actually less than the 400,000 figure being floated around.
     
  5. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    let it build up...

    If Khan beats casamayor like a crowbar to a puppy.... we might not see Katsidis fight him right away...unless the loot is right.

    It's not really ducking... it's doing your thing in the pool till it's right.

    Katsidis is going to eat alot of punches on his way to that chin of khans.
    a bit more preperation and study.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    How am I saying he should get paid less?

    Katsidis earned £400,000 against Mitchell, and was offered the same amount against Khan. Which is pretty reasonable seeing as though he's getting a shot at a bigger name, as well as a world title in another division. Again, will Katsidis find the same £400,000 fighting any one else? Also, the offer is not what prevented the fight from taking place, so I don't know why you're attempting to use that as an excuse.

    As for the amount that's being offered to Casa, the Scene of Boxing is reporting it to be the exact same £400,000.
     
  7. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    BigReg is saying he should be getting paid more for a bigger fight, which he should. Why wouldn't he? Bigger fight, more money

    Are you saying that fighting a bigger name is some sort of bonus, thats worth something in itself?

    Katsidis has a lot going on for him at LW, so why risk it taking on a much bigger fighter when they're lowballing him. And they did low ball him.

    Casa taking the same money is no surprise, he's on the way out, looking for a final payday. Katsidis is waiting for his mandatory shot.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    "According to DeCubas, the fight between Khan and Casamayor is very close to being finalized for July 31 in England. Casamayor has accepted the fight, although the money being negotiated is lower than the amount of £400000 being reported by some of the UK papers."

    This comes directly from an article at the Scene. Business 101 my friend, you do not take around the same amount of money to participate in a bigger fight. Did you also not forget that Katsidis will be the mando for the Marquez/Diaz winner? That fight will probably net him more than Team Khan offered him. If they really wanted to make the fight with Katisidis, why would they offer they same amount to him and Casa? Casa has no options right now, Katsidis is in line for a title shot. Clearly Casa's asking price is going to be lower.
     
  9. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here is the BIG difference...Now I hope I don't confuse you with FACTS. But Alexander made attempts, now I am not talking about casual phone calls, but real attempts to fight fighters with skill and pop...Obviously the several futile attempts to get Bradley to come to St. Louis didn't work out, They actually had Zab Judah "inked" but Judah was having "camp issues" and had to say NO THANKS, Lamont Peterson said only at 147lbs because of his struggle to make 140lbs, and Ricardo Torres people told Kevin Cunningham (Alexander's Manager and Trainer) that they just had a fight at 154lbs in May and currently in training for another 154lbs fight. So what Alexander did was SETTLE for Ketolnik...NOT PICK HIM.

    Khan when after two lightweights, threw a dollar figure out there and the first to bite, got the fight...CASSAMAYOR. So your comparison of Khan and Alexander have fallen short...But like I always say: WHY LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY!!!
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    In this case there's only a double-standard among a few african-american posters who think everyone ducks black fighters. Most other people get it right.
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    A lot going for him at LW? What, a fight with the winner of JMM/Diaz (both relatively deteriorated) is more appealing than a fight with the youthful and popular Khan? Yes it's a risk, but it's also a massive opportunity - to not only claim a bigger and better scalp, but earn around the same amount in the process.

    Also, why are people using purse as the reason for Katsidis rejecting this fight, when it has not been reported anywhere that Team Katsidis had a problem with the money being offered to them. In fact, Katsidis has made a reputation of fighting anyone, anywhere, and for any amount, all in the attempt of building a stronger legacy for himself. A chance against Khan, is one that he would not turn down for monetary reasons.

    I've just asnwered the JMM/Diaz point above. And in regards Casa's offer being lower, yes you're probably right, it could be lower. But what's that got to do with Katsidis rejecting Khan's offer of a fight?
     
  12. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal
     
  13. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    He's going to get a title fight and could be champion of the division. How is that not stuff going for him? :huh If he wins that then he'll be champ and get his own big fights on American tv.

    You're making it sound like Katsidis should take the fight regardless of the money because he's a warrior.

    Look at the two bits I've highlighted, you think he should take a much tougher fight against a younger bigger man for the same money (if it was the same money)? Just because it would be an amazing victory? Not everybody is Manny Pacquiao.

    I don't think Katsidis would have shyed away from the fight if they had made it worth his while, they obviously didn't.
     
  14. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem with Khan in this fight is Time, and Ramadan.

    The word keep busy means = a win win fight, low risk

    Khan could stay inactive and just fight Maidana in the winter, but no from May 15th when he fought Paulie to July 31 is around 10 weeks to rest, train, fly U.K- L.A - L.A-UK jet lag.

    This fight in terms of level had to be low risk so Roach and Khan can work in this time frame, Khan is now a top up and coming fighter in the world a GBP fighter he will not be risked under short time conditions.
     
  15. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    But he'll get a title fight against Khan too

    No I'm saying Katsidis should take the fight, because a win over a talented up'n'comer that's on a decent win streak (improving immensely in the process), is far better than a win over a past it JMM/Diaz.

    For the amazing victory and through the roof respect from the boxing world, yes it's definately worth it! Also, you're treating Katsidis as if he's not capable of fighting at 140. Despite the fact that he's a pretty big lightweight himself, having even fought up at 140 a few times in the past, as well as showing major interest in fighting Hatton (way before Pacquiao destroyed him). Furthermore, Khan was fighting as a light-weight himself 12 months ago, so the weight difference between the two will not be as enormous some are making it.

    Again, until Team Katsidis report this as the sole reason for them refusing the fight, you're just attempting to make excuses for him.