Why is Always About How Manny Looked 5 Years Ago?

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many different versions of Manny Pacquiao is it? Every two years it seems there is a new Manny Pacquiao being touted. He looks like the same guy to me, I'm not sure how he is suppose to be different. I see the same one handed fighter, darting in and out, wreckless and dangerous. Regardless of who Pac is fighting he does the same ****, looks the same way, same technique, same mistakes. If there are so many Manny's tell me which one is fighting Floyd on May 2nd?

    In contrast how many Floyd's is it? Was the Floyd of 5 years ago a different Mayweather? I don't see a big difference from the guy who fought Mosley/Hatton/Oscar vs the guy fighting today? The only difference with Floyd is he fights bigger fighters one way and smaller fighters another way. Thats called adaptation, changing styles to suit the situation, his greatest strength as a fighter in my opinion.

    With Pacquiao its always the "new Manny"..... If he always has to reinvent himself that means he must be doing something wrong. There is no consistency in the Pac camp and that is why I dont favor him over Floyd. May 2nd will be a boxing clinic. If you guys hate Floyd now you are really going to hate him after he embarrasses your boy.
     
  2. Scar

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    We all knew there's a secret hidden version to Pacquiao and it will only be revealed by the mentally dispatched people in his fanbase as soon as the fight was on. Many people don't remember this(deliberately for most), but when Pacquiao vs Mayweather was rumored to be on in 2010, a lot of cries like "Oh no!, after Marquez he's fighting another small fighter?!?!, what a farce!" and "Mosley is the real threat!, Mayweather stuttered when Mosley showed up!". When he fought Mosley, he was ducking Pacquiao again.

    Even though I've been a fan of Pacquiao even before those abominations existed, it's sometimes embarrassing being a fan of his and having to group up with absolute shameless mongoloids.
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    They are different.

    Simplified "dumb" break down (very dumb :lol: )
    Pacquiao 2010: Very aggressive, not very defensive. Took one to give one.
    Pacquiao 2015: Less aggressive, makes more defensive maneuvers.
    Mayweather 2010: Stood in the pocket more, sat on his punches more. Came forward.
    Mayweather 2015: More fleet footed, moves around and pot shots more.

    Pacquiao seems like he lost a little pop but not much, probably because he's more cautious now. Still fast. The biggest difference is that he doesn't have the stamina he used to have. He's now more visibly fatigued but still has elite stamina.

    Mayweather's reflexes have slowed a tad. Since he's less athletic than before he seems to rely more on slick maneuvers than athleticism. He also looks like he fatigues more.
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I remember the "he's scared of Mosley" and "he's scared of Ortiz" and "he's scared of Canelo".
     
  5. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The words of a real fan and not a fake bottom feeder like the majority who troll the entirety of the internet. I myself was a fan of Pacquiao...all the way up to the Cotto fight. I only began to question my fandom of the guy when he turned down drug testing. Not only that but to follow up by fighting Clottey, Margarito, Rios, Algieri ..(I'll give Bradley a pass) was insulting to real boxing fans.
    BTW I also found the 3rd Marquez fight insulting as it was believed by many JMM was spent after the Mayweather bout.

    I still question how Manny could decline a Mayweather 50/50 and OST to fight Joshua Clottey for peanuts in Dallas??? That to me is a guilty verdict in itself. Ever since then I just find Pac and his Team shady as hell.
     
  6. larryx2012

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  7. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm glad you included the disclaimer cause there is no way you can categorize fighters like this :-((
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    :rofl

    I'm tired
     
  9. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People think Floyd is changed because of the Maidana fights. I personally think that any change seen in Floyd was because of Maidana. The guy fought like a wild man. Floyd had to change his normal style up to avoid getting caught with one of those crazy azz punches Maidana throwing. In contrast Canelo, Guerrero, even Ortiz dont throw wild punches. They are all somewhat textbook. Floyd could be Floyd in those fights.

    Any fighter unwilling to adapt their style to Chino is asking for it. Especially these days.
     
  10. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol... I feel your pain. Same boat.
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  12. abuffy

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    This is such a misconception. Pacquiao averages more punches now than he did before the KO. Not only that, but he becomes more efficient too. He throws more and LANDS MORE the more a figh goes on.

    Idk how he looks visibly but his numbers say something much different.

    I will agree though that he was in horrible shape (horrible for him) against Bradley. Even Fortune admitted it. Not sure if it had to do with his wife's pregnancy or whatever, but Rios and Algieri, his stamina was better than It was in some of his pre-KO fights.
     
  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    The opponents also aid in that misconception. Averaging more punches because his opponents were either A) extremely limited or B) feather fisted so he doesn't have to worry about the return.
     
  14. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But answer the question though, which Manny is Floyd fighting? There's so many to chose from :rofl