Why is Andrade such a big underdog to Bute?

Cause he's not anywhere near in the skill department..:deal

 

Per the real IBF rule book, all Bute had to do was be up before 10. I understand that normally we take for granted that a guy needs to show the ref he is able to fight on, but the IBF rules clearly don't enforce that...maybe unfortunately I agree. So he was allowed to stand up against the ropes at that point when the time ran out...

 

Isn't a rematch against Bika equally pointless?

 

Bute won 10 rounds in their last fight. Bute should be a heavy favorite.

 

and regardless of how much time is left in the fight bute was in no condition to continue and all rounds from the first to the 12th should be treated the same. if a fighter cannot continue or stand on his own power it is a win for the other guy. bute was unable to do just that and was assisted by the ref to his corner after struggling to get up with the assistance of the ropes.

some big if's going into this fight is will bute's stamina hold up? will he be able to control the pace better this time? or will andrade start ealier with his success and take out bute?

 

The fight was already over when that happened. As soon as Bute left the floor, the fight was finished. What you're saying appears absolutely nowhere in the IBF rules. Did you just make it up?

 

The rule says his gloves have to clear the mat. Period. You can read the rules. Of course it would take an effort.

 

The rules are very clear. What you say is true from the first to the 11th round. For the 12th round, the boxer has not to be able tu continue. Guess why? You are one more poster who should read the rules properly.

 

bute pretty easilly outboxed him the whole fight before the 12th round

 

I agree with the second half of this post. In fact, if the end of the fight had just simply been Bute going down and then getting up WITHOUT the referee taking so long, then we would really be discussing the ref.'s ineptitude for the longer portion of the fight. In a way, his unorthodox yelling at Bute to move back 3 feet, which in the end (because of the IBF rules) didn't make a difference in the outcome actually got the ref off the hook for all of his other more suspicious actions mentioned in the second half of the above statement.

If both these fighters have the same skill, stamina, determination, etc. as they did in the first fight, I believe that a competent ref makes all the difference and it really is a pick 'em fight. All it will take is a warning for holding and Bute will be screwed. He obviously didn't have what it took to keep Andrade off of him without the holding in the first fight, so this time around he may well get taken out mid to late rounds.

 

A boxer shall be deemed to be down when any part of his body except his feet are on the
floor, or if he is hanging helplessly over the ropes as a result of a legal blow as ruled by
the referee, who is the only person authorized to determine this.

intepret how you want just as wright did during the fight. he was completely helpless on the ropes and unable to stand.

 

you should give it a shot. was he hanging on to the ropes because of he was punched and knocked down? or did you miss that part. try reading them yourself.:good

 

Per IBF rules he only had to get up.Period.

The rest is irrelevant.

 

I hope we won't be talking about the ref on Sunday morning. I see a different fight than you do and it's ok like that. Only 6 days before we know the correct answer. :happy