Why is Bivol disparaged for lack of stoppages, while Mayweather was praised?

Don't agree with the premise but I think the reason Bivol gets heat is because people envision him fighting the absolutely monstrous Beterviev and moving up to cruiser, and they want to see evidence that he has the power to pull it off.

 

Why is this site stuck on talking about Mayweather?

 

Never mind Mayweather, I remember Pacquiao going the full distance in like the last 20 fights or so in his career or something like that an wondered why no one was mentioning that he just couldn’t seem to ko or stop anyone anymore. To me it seem that it meant that he was in clear decline but fans just seem happy that he was still fighting an still winning at his age that they just weren’t bothered by the lack of kos an stoppages so hardly mentioned it at all

 

I think he went nine years without a knockout.

 

It was a quote from Chris Mannix, mate.

 

As I said, Bivol is a very good fighter. He is not, however, a generational fighter.

If you think Floyd and Bivol are analogous, that's an issue you need to resolve.

 

the general lack of appreciation of Mayweather always gets me.

ok so he tried to maximize earnings, which included protecting his record? Like he’s the first to do that?

he was a generational talent. Incredible fighter. Being a bit of a dick, and doing what it took to maximize earnings takes nothing away from that.

yeah, there were fights I wish he’d taken. But I get why he didn’t. And he’d have been an odds on favorite to have won every single one of those fights anyway.

and then there’s the hand issue. Not his fault, but definitely led to his overly defensive style later on.

 

As anyone on here will attest, I have no sympathy for the Floyd Best Eva yo! fan club. But don't swing the pendulum so far in the opposite direction that it compromises your credibility.

Floyd was a brilliant fighter and a bonafide ATG irrespective of weight class. Bivol is simply not at that level. He's a very good fighter. Period.

Floyd never beat a top fighter in their prime? That would be news to Diego Corrales.

In fact, the Corrales win trumps anything on Bivol's resume, which consists of a lot of solid but scarcely spectacular names and a blown-up Canelo. The same Canelo, incidentally, an undersized Floyd schooled some years before.

 

Floyd was a small welterweight.

 

Your OP is about Chris Mannix criticising Bivol, well he also criticised Floyd.

For your thread to be valid you need to find someone who criticised Bivol whilst praising Floyd.

 

There arent many fighters like Floyd that would literally let opponents swing on them with little success. Floyd could roll with punches in a way very few could and, after opponent energy was spent, Floyd would smack them w a potshot. It as artistic...almost theatrical. Not to mention Floyd spent so much time out of the ring promoting himself and he was fortunate to have crossover star opponents in Pacquiao, DLH, Canelo, and partially in Mosley/Cotto/Gatti/Genaro.

Even if youre a hater - it was impressive how Floyd never got touched in his fights. There were token moments but large and wide he deflected, parried, rolled, and outright avoided champion caliber offense.

 

Are you suggesting that 175lbs was the optimum weight class for Canelo? I would submit that is not and that Bivol defeated a Canelo who was fighting above his ideal weight.

Rationalize Floyd's victory over Corrales if you must, but my original point-- the Corrales win is better than anything on Bivol's resume--still stands.