Why is Boente keeping Wladimir away from pressure fighters?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MrMagic, Oct 24, 2012.


  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why did Boente set Arreola and Solis up with Vitali and not Wladimir?

    Why is Wladimir facing bums like Mormeck and this Wakk guy and not some pressure fighters like Seth Mitchell, Odlanier Solis or Chris Arreola?


    This is something not even you die hard Klitschko fans can support, this is some bull**** mayn.

    SLOW ASS ZOMBIES, guys with no power or guys who shy away from dogging it out are the only people that ever get a shot at Wladimir. Haye was his biggest challenge and his biggest step up by far, and Haye is a ****ing cruiserweight at HW.

    Boente stop hiding Wladimir from fighters with a come forward pressure style, last man you matched with Wladimir that was a pressure fighter was OLD LAMON BREWSTER, OLD BLIND LAMON BREWSTER.

    The world wants to see stylistical challenges to Wladimir, not some freak circus act with slow zombie like hands. You ****ing ******, Boente. And I know that slimey piece of **** is reading this site.
     
  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    I bet you Boente the slimey worm is trying to get Vitali to soften up Seth Mitchell before Wladimir ever dares get in the ring wit him.

    Seth Mitchell is too much of a dog for Boente to even give him a chance.
     
  3. kh80290z

    kh80290z Active Member Full Member

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    yep, but there are not any real pressure fighter anymore, like the ones that are really in your face the whole twelve rounds, joe fraizer, tyson come to mind.

    Right now I don't think Wlad would have any problem with guys like Seth Mitchell, his own team don't want him to take Wlad as of yet, they still want him to develop.

    In regards to Areola we may see this fight in the future, i sure do hope so.
    But I don't really think he will cause Wlad much problems.

    Where have the body puncher fighters gone, the old school mentality attack the body
    the rest will then fall, like Marciano, Dempsey type of boxers, i really believe these type of pressure fighters would cause Wlad some real problems.

    Its like trainers done teach this type of style anymore, or fighters are not much good at it, you have to be extremely fit coming forward, knowing you may take some punishment.

    Theres a misconception with some trainers and promoters, fans especially they think BIGGER IS ALWAYS BETTER
    not to put Wlad down

    Wlad is a big guy but also very athletic, this is very rare, you have to give him credit,
    but he is beatable, a fighter has to have real heart, and really go for war. if he cant beat Wlad skill wise, brawl him,
    push him around, like Lewis did, you have to take him to deep waters.

    Thats something Brewster did, even thnough he took punishment, easier said than done.

    I hope Wach does something, I wanna see Wlad tested while hes still in his prime, then we will know how good he really is.
     
  4. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yup.

    Even if Wladimir was favored to beat all them guys, Boente is keeping him away from them because they pose a threat stylistically.

    Think about it, the biggest challenge of Wladimirs career post-Brewster I is David Haye, a cruiserweight.

    THINK ABOUT IT for a second, thats just pathetic.
     
  5. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Peter didn't count as a threat? Wasn't Wlad the underdog in that fight? :huh
     
  6. stanislove12

    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    i thought about it... and i remember... Haye was hailed to be the next champ. he is an x cruiserweight but so was byrd (actually he was super middle weigth), so was holyfield, so was moorer... so would have been Ali (if the division existed).

    in Wlads return fight he fought Peter (who in his own way is a presure fighter), he fought peter twice, he fought brewester again (even though brewester was faded)... he didn't fight Chisora who is probobly the closest thing to a presure fighter now adays but i'll be honest... Chisora would likely have been put down.
     
  7. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sam Peter was a known sparring partner of the Klitschkos back in the day, when he was first starting out as a professional.

    Wladimir probably had a wealth of rounds of sparring under his belt, with Sam Peter, he knew how flawed Sam is, and he still got put down by a very crude, very non-creative slugger. Bernd probably knew Wladimir handled Sam with ease in sparring, as did others like Gomez and Vitali.

    I'm not saying Wladimir is ducking them personally, what I'm saying is Bernd is keeping all these guys away from Wladimir, because they pose a stylistic threat that guys like Wach does not.
     
  8. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye was never a pressure fighter, all that was a front. Haye is the type of fighter who throws 20 odd punches per round and dances around waiting for you to fall into his big right hands.

    The Sam Peter rematch we shouldn't even talk about, come on man... :lol:
    Brewster re-match, Brewster was practically blind and shot to ****.
     
  9. stanislove12

    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    i was just arguing your original point that he has been placed against presure fighters since the brewester fight... i didn't deny that those fighters under preformed.

    i also argued that Haye being a cruiserweight isn't necessarily a bad thing... he is still regarded as one of the top guys... a large portion of the posters are even claiming that Vitaly is ducking Haye... so he must be relevent.
     
  10. MrMagic

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    Bernd "The snake" Boente knows Wladimir does not have his brothers mental makeup, he knows Wladimir don't have the dog in him like his big brother has.

    Now, I'd favor Wladimir over all these guys, but the truth is, Bernd just wants to steer Wladimir away from pressure fights, as things could get ugly, and if it does Wladimir could fall apart again like he's done in the past.

    Wladimir is an excellent champion, I bet he wants to fight everyone.

    I think we can all agree that we'd rather see Wladimir fight:

    Solis
    Arreola
    Stiverne
    Mitchell
    Haye 2

    moreso than seeing him fight Mormeck, Wach and Thompson. COME ON BROTHERS.
     
  11. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Peter was a far bigger threat for Wladimir back then, than Haye was..
     
  12. MrMagic

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    Well, I stand corrected, I'd agree with that.

    But what I don't agree with is that Sam Peter was some monster, he was a hypejob beyond belief, he was hailed to be the next Foreman, even though it was a known fact that he was passed around like a punching bag in the gyms in Germany back in the day, Gomez, Klitschko brothers and others used him as a punching bag.
     
  13. Karapuz

    Karapuz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Solis is pressure fighter? :patsch:nut
     
  14. stanislove12

    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Solis? :lol::rofl:patsch

    why don't you look at his competition and ask why he hasn't fought anyone of note his best opponent other than Vitali who Shattered his Glass Jaw in one round is Ray Austin.

    Not even going to comment on Mitchell. It is a waste of time.