Why is Bud rated #1 p4p over Inoue?

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Make Fake Lists Unimportant Again!
     
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  2. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    He sure as hell isn’t better than Usyk!! And he’s rated above him according to some.
     
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  3. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Crawford's resume is far better and he just stopped Shawn Porter AND Errol Spence.

    Are we pretending that Inoue's resume is somehow better? We're really doing this? His best win is a shot Donaire.
     
  4. BVA

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    Breidis, Gassiev, Joshua. < Usyk has the best 3 wins

    Spence looked terrible, and Porter is just a standard B Level brawler
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    He’s undisputed in two weight classes, that alone is pretty remarkable, and worthy of P4P #1
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I think people are rating the Spence win very high, better than anyone on Inoue's resume. Of course, we can argue that Spence was not in the best shape. Also, being the 1st undisputed champ in 2 divisions carries a lot of weight. Personally, I like both guys and both have an argument to be the top guy. Gun to head, I might lean Inoue. He is outright destroying guys. That being said, I'm not disagreeing with anyone that claims Bud is #1.
     
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  7. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    He's the better p4p fighter.
     
  8. JOKER

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    Donaire wasn't shot. He was resurgent after dropping back down to 118. 2 highlight reel KOs before the first Inoue fight and 2 highlight reel KOs after - 3 undefeated fighters and 2 with belts. Certified ATG with a lethal left hook.

    Taguchi, Hernandez, Narvaez, Payano, Rodriguez, Moloney, Donaire (2X), and Fulton were GREAT wins. Moloney and Rodriguez have proven to be smooth and high level operators.

    Terence Crawford
    • Gamboa - decent win; Crawford was like 30 pounds heavier and he did the stanky leg
    • Postol - very good win
    • Kavaliauskas - decent win; dropped Crawford
    • Porter - lost to Brook, Thurman, Spence, and was absolutely SONNED by Ugas and got a gift
    • Horn - decent win; got a massive gift against Pac
    • Jean - TRASH
    • Lundy - TRASH
    • Dulorme - TRASH
    • Beltran - TRASH
    • Burns - TRASH
    • Avanesyan - TRASH
    • Indongo - TRASH
    • Diaz - TRASH
    • Benavidez - TRASH (and one-legged, too)
    • Khan - TRASH/SHOT
    • Brook - TRASH/SHOT
    • Molina - TRASH/SHOT
    • Spence - SEVERELY DRAINED, DAMAGED, and INACTIVE
    GTFOH, bro.

    :roflmao:
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Whilst I tend to agree the concept of P4P is pretty silly and meaningless at the end of the day, and I freely admit I do play the game myself too, I do believe that if all things were equal, as in all the fighters ranked in the P4P top 10 top were the same size and could duke it out with each other to try and establish who's best, Usyk, Terry, Inoue and Loma are the most skillful and would be the four last men standing.

    Usyk is 36 and he's fighting giants up at HW and everyone in their backyards whilst running a gauntlet of legit bangers and murderous punchers like no one else. He's playing Ukrainian roulette all the time and everytime he steps foot into a ring he's really stepping foot on a minefield.

    Crawford is a pretty young and fresh 35 who hasn't taken much damage or had an extensive amateur career. I don't ever recall hearing anything about him being injured. No torn rotator cuff, no broken hands, or suffering any serious injuries AFAIA. He's like that Eurasian King GGG in that regard, as in he doesn't seem to get injured. Granted, GGG seems to be some kind of freak anomaly given his fighting style, age, and extremely extensive amateur career.

    Terry's been very dominant but it's much easier to be so when even in your third division you're fighting, at worst, opponents your own size, against light to average punchers, and exclusively at home sans once.

    Inoue is by far the youngest out of these four at 30 years of age and he has also been very dominant. He's wreaked a trail of havoc and destruction and continues to do so as he's moved up in weight on all these bodies at those weighs he's campaigned at. He's a Japanese leprechaun terrorist.

    But he's going to be undersized/very undersized against the giant 122 and 126 pounders but like I predicted he's carried his crazy power up and it'll be very interesting to see if he can do so at 126 because, as with Loma, size is going to become a big problem for him at some point or at least, as with Loma again, make things so much difficult for him.


    Loma is an old 35, tiny for the division, injury-ravaged, significantly past his best and on the way out, and he's fighting giants who weigh 2-3 (4 in that giant chicken Haney's case) more than him who have huge reach advantages on him in a division he doesn't belong in.

    Even this aged version of Loma would be super dominant against fighters his own size, let alone ones he's bigger than or who he holds the kind of huge physical advantages over like pretty much everyone he fights at 135 does over him. Not rocket science.

    If Loma and Usyk were the same size they'd never fight because they're close friends but if Inoue and Crawford were the same size as each other does anyone actually genuinely believe Inoue wouldn't get arrested for legal homicide? Most erudite fans and experts believe he could beat Crawford half to death right now despite the crazy weight disadvantage so it stands to reason that a same size version would send him to the shadow realm on a stretcher :facepalm:
     
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  10. Bob Dobalina

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    The little guys always get slept on. It’s the American way.
     
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  11. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Inoue skipped an entire generation of great Flyweights, didn’t fight a single one. If bud skipped a deep and talented 147 division to fight at 154 vs bums you guys would crucify him.