Why is Calzaghe scared to fight in America?

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  1. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Hopkins fight makes the most sense right now because of his experience. The other fighters you mentioned are a little green right now but they will also be great opponents for Joe in the near future.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fine by me.

    I'd like Bernard to win his last fight.

    (Miranda, Green, even maybe Pavlik)

    Calzaghe is a great fight in some ways for Bernard. If he pulls it off, his status becomes even more legendary.

    If he loses, he was never expected to win.

    Sort of like Oscar against Bernard.

    The only way Oscar was going to win that was if Bernard suddenly got old.

    And that didn't happen.
     
  3. Taffyy

    Taffyy Active Member Full Member

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    Hostile..............:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
    My Mrs is more Hostile when its games off week .......!!!!!!!!!!!
    A young welshman fighting in England or an Englishman going to Scotland early in his career is a more hostile enviroment than anything America can come up with.....:roll:
     
  4. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    not only are you ignorant about life, but your a fool!

    Calzaghe fans probably outnumbered the number of Robin Reed/Woodhall fans..going to England is like a walk to the neighbours. What the **** is hostile about that?

    ..The boy's legacy is in question until he goes over to America..as fas as I'm concerned the likes of Benn, Honeyghan, Lewis are higher in my best of british list for the simple fact that they went over to America and beat there was to face...

    I'm Britsh and I'm telling our American friends: Calzaghe needs to travel across the atlantic to face your best.:deal
     
  5. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    That is the problem of myopic Americans not Calzaghe. Why do US fighters still have UK fans? Because we don't have our heads stuck up our ass thinking that someone is not worth watching or supporting unless they fight here.

    If I was a pro fighter then personally I would want to fight at Madison Square Garden and in Vegas, just like Hatton wants to. But if you are selling out 50,000 seater stadiums and you are the undisputed number 1 at your class why the **** should you travel to fight in front of 6,000 fans because American fans wont support or rate you if you don't?

    The US fans with any knowledge or objectivity will, the ones who say you are crap because you have not fought there are the same ones who picked Lacy by brutal KO and then said he was crap, ie jingoistic twats who are not worht worrying about.

    Calzaghe has said he will fight Hopkins in the US. Hopkins is now saying he wants RJJ...so thats that.
     
  6. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then he should take a pay-cut/drop Warren, etc just to make the fight happen. The dude needs to keep his word (about wanting the big fights in the USA) otherwise he looks silly:roll:
     
  7. sues2nd

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    ****...had to quote myself here....

    I REPEAT!!!! WHY ARE PEOPLE FORGETTING THIS????

    (or better yet, ignoring it.....hmmmmmm :huh )
     
  8. Taffyy

    Taffyy Active Member Full Member

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    K2ray........As for as life goes SON , I have a wardrobe full of T-Shirts so **** off on that score, Secondly dont call me a fool after some of the ****ing tripe you have posted on here...:patsch
    I have been to a lowly pro fights all over England & as a Welshman its ****ing scary & intimidating mate , You obviously have'nt experienced the York Hall from a Welsh fighters perspective so dont tell me its a walk in the park you ****ing ignorant fool.
    The point I was making that the US , while a test is far from Hostile , Mexico or Peurto Rico YES but not the states.
    Since your knowledge of boxing is so great...:patsch ....Who are the best that he has to face in America......?????????? Its not about that you ****ing herbet as there is'nt anyone from a skill level about over there its all about money now for Joe.
    P.S. pop in my local with your english accent airing your views , It's be a walk in the park......:rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  9. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    My dear friend Taffy. If Calzaghe were to fight in New York (my hometown) at Madison Square Garden in front of a ruckus crowd, Calzaghe would definitely feel the heat. New York boxing fans would come out to support Hopkins. And, being a native New Yorker, I'm well aware how New Yorkers can be loud and volatile in a environment such as MSG. Mind you, if Calzaghe chose to fight Dawson in NY, Dawson would also have fan support arriving throughout the tri-state area since Dawson is a resident of Connecticut.

    NY boxing fans support the fighters they like. Don't assume Hopkins is not liked in New York. That being said, there's no reason for Calzaghe not to make a fight with Hops or Dawson. Calzaghe said himself he wants to fights in the states. Here's his chance. If indeed Calzaghe is sincere, it's time for him to put up or shut up.

    :bbb
     
  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    calzaghe likes hometown advantage and has said so many times .

    he has not tried to hide this fact.

    he is the draw and as such his promoter has been able to accomadate him.

    now if he is not the draw and can get paid a lot more to fight in his opponents backyard than the same fight makes in the millenium stadium then in his mind it would make sense to travel.
     
  11. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Every fighter likes hometown advantage. I understand that, Sean. However, if Calzaghe says he wants to fight in the states then he should be a man of his word.
     
  12. Taffyy

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    Hello Flow my esteemed esb buddy.....Alot of what I said is tongue in cheek & I went off on a bit of a tangent with K2ray as I have experienced hostility within the UK & he obviously has'nt..!!!
    As far as Joe is concerned I really think that unless the money is right the Hopkins fight is'nt going to happen , Personally I'd like to see Joe come to the states & fight a genuine challenger , something I dont think at this stage Hopkins is. Dawson or even Pavlik from a "fight" perspective would be superb but I cant see the money being there.......
     
  13. sean

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    despite the rhetoric from calzaghe he will only fight in the states if he gets paid a fair bit more money than the same fight would get him fighting at home.

    boxers say things all the time that they never follow through on, and calzaghe can be a prime example of this time and again.
     
  14. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    For the record I want everybody to know I think Calzaghe is an elite fighter - which is why I would like to see him fight in the states. I didn't regard Calzaghe very high until he beat Lacy. Yes, that is true, I originally thought Calzaghe would get broke in half by Lacy. Obviously I changed my tune. However, if Calzaghe wants to fight in the states whats holding him back? Does he need overwhelming hometown crowd support to win fights?
     
  15. K2ray

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    Laffy Taffyy, here's a great example of how much of a fool you are:lol:...This quote from you suggests that you reside in the states...oh yeah thick idiot, you should have written 'go' to the states..so where the **** do you live? (if its in America then you will surely know that things can get extremely hostile at boxing venues there.) Try the Bowe v Golota fight at a much bigger venue fitting more hostile folks than in York Hall!:good