Why is Calzaghe scared to fight in America?

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  1. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Boxing historians won't be kind to JC suspect resume at this point. Bernard is the only fighter at his point that could catapult his status from a champion to a legend. You have to beat a legend to become a legend.

    BHops with a resume that JC can only dream of maybe 42 but he's never been KO'd or dominated. He's a future HO Famer, underdog on his last 2 fights and won convincingly against these 2 top 10 P4P fighter. The risk for Calzaghe is, if he loses or win in an unimpressive fashion to this version of Hopkins, he will be brought down in the category of just another good champion.

    The money that is reportedly offered by GBP is very reasonable. Now, will JC put it all on the line in America or just play it safe, and be happy to be a pseudo legend in Europe?
     
  2. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Right back atcha!!!!



    Yes...he did. But leading up to the Manfredo fight (before both the Wright and Kessler fights for both fighters), Joe said he wanted a big money fight, against a big name over in the US. At and around his weight class, is there ANYONE who even comes close to matching those three things like Bernard does...love him or hate him?

    So Hopkins called him out first, definately, but it was Joe himself who first expressed his desire to fight over here.



    Sadly, your probably right. I blame Warren for Joe's lack of exposure over in the US more than I do Joe himself. And with GBP's need for control over most of the precedings, they are always a tough sell.....but they do bring the $$$$$.



    :thumbsup




    It will. GBP PPVs always do great numbers. Like Oscar or not, the man is a first ballot HOFer on the buisiness side of things.

    There is not that much of a following for Floyd here as one would think. Most people cant stand the **** (myself included)....in all honesty. During the whole Oscar lead up he portrayed himself as a villian in a way. He aint as big as you would think....its his skills that attract the numbers, not him. Though I do think that whomever advised him to go on Dancing with the Stars is a genious...that alone probably got them another 100k buys.

    Who knows tho.

    Point is, when GBP is involved, you can be sure of one thing....PPV success. Their track record with even the smaller fights in amazing.

    Joe will bring a big crowd. Maybe not like Hatton does, but comparable. This will be his biggest fight (regardless of what one thinks of Bernard anymore)....and his following is tremendous over there.

    Hopkins - Wright didnt do great gate numbers, but still had more than 305,000 PPV buys. Tarver had over 400,000.

    Then you have to factor in that just the sheer fact of it being the VERY LAST (non-baseball) sporting event held in Yankee Stadium...a building RICH in boxing and sporting as a whole tradition...people will be lining up for tickets. Myself included.





    Well, at around 5:20 he is asked about the winner of Tito - Jones...he says that 5 years ago maybe, 10 years ago definately...but now, it would be a waste. He says something like he would feel like he would be cheating the fans by asking them to spend their hard earned money on a fight that would only serve one purpose...a selfish one....him avenging a loss. He then goes on to say that the majority of boxing fans look at that loss as, early in his career, before his prime, his first title shot, etc.

    Again, he has NO DESIRE in that fight.





    As do I. As do I.

    But I reallly have to go to sleep. You mentioned not being able to check youtube at work....but I have work in 6 hours....

    :dead
     
  3. ThePlugInBabies

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    complete and utter bull****. just because wright, trinidad and de la hoya are big names doesn't detract from the fact they were all fighting above their natural weights, de la hoya and wright were way in over their heads and had no business fighting at LHW and MW.
     
  4. ThePlugInBabies

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    alrighty sues, go hit the hay man, good talking with you again.
     
  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Ahhhh, but Hearns, Duran and Leonard were all above their natural and best weights....but noone would debate the merits of Hagler's record....


    Awwwww, damn dont do this to me.....I have to go to bed.

    :twisted:

    Goodnight...I cant, I really cant get into it.

    :lol:
     
  6. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe because he knows Americans are bad asses.
     
  7. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    but de la hoya blows!!!!............











    go to bed!!
    :tong
     
  8. Taffyy

    Taffyy Active Member Full Member

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    Sues.....!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Have a word with him mate....:rofl
     
  9. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    time to turn off your kid rock CD.
     
  10. Taffyy

    Taffyy Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  11. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He knows that half of his act is based on thousands screamin n intimidating his opponent so that he can do what he does n the other guy doesn't. I don't believe Calzaghe would perform as good in the States and even if he would, that could not be good enough to get away with it - bottom line is that he may not have public wanting to pay to see him fight there, it all depends against whom he fights there. Bernard would be a wise choice from the finantial point of view but Joe is not certain if he can really beat him now so he skips that one and possibly fights him when he's 44 or something... I don't believe he'd fight Dawson either.
     
  12. Taffyy

    Taffyy Active Member Full Member

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    Bollocks.....:patsch
     
  13. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he comes here his 0 will go
     
  14. ThePlugInBabies

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    :roll:

    another well thought out post.
     
  15. Taffyy

    Taffyy Active Member Full Member

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    :patsch...........Give me strength