Why is Calzaghe's opposition considered trash?

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  1. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I have been undecided since the announcement of the fight, but I am certainly starting to lean towards Calzaghe. Especially after reading about the future opponents he is looking for if he wins.
     
  2. lefthook31

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    Eubank was an old man. He had two more fights both losses and then retired, he was finished when he fought Calzhage, not a good perameter. Thats been the trend with Joe, his promoter has carefully matched him his entire career, picking guys at the perfect time, while avoiding some of the bigger names, and theres got to be a reason for it. :deal
     
  3. box03

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    Calazaghe is a great boxer, but his resume doesnt show that. Hes never beaten a great fighter like Jones or Hopkins, mostly above average middles like Benn, Eubank, and Lacy who was a overhyped super middlewieght himself. I give him credit for being on top for so long, I just wish he could of fought better opposition so people would give him more props.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well neither Lacy or Kessler were picked at the perfect time (based on what you mean here) so this should tell us alot about him.
     
  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    BTW, where can I catch some Calzaghe fights?? Youtube has next to nothing of him in action (at least that I can find, only interviews and such), I only really saw him against Manfredo which didn't go to far. I saw the one round between him and Mitchell I think it was where he knocked Calz down only to have Calz dismantle his ass right after. Would love to see more of his action. (same for Kessler, I only really saw him fight Andrade)
     
  6. lefthook31

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    Lacy was certainly unproven, and considered what he really turned out to be, a one dimensional guy. He was popular because he fought on a major network and was matched against guys he could knockout and look spectacular against. His fight with Sheika should have tipped everyone off to what he really was all along. Leading up to the Calzahge fight, he had faced similar to worse opposition to Joe.
     
  7. pipe wrenched

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    This is fair by all means.:good
     
  8. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah just like Tyson when he fought Williams, he hurt his knee. Everyone has an excuse. Bottom line, he lost, and never fought again after losing three in a row. :deal
     
  9. Strike

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    Brewer was shot to ****. Starie...come on mate, good domestic level fighter. Dean Francis was a top UK talent who lost his career through injury and a bit of stupidity....but he smashed the **** out of Starie in a way neither Joe or Reid did.

    The big problem was a long list of absolute no hopers being shipped over. Pudwell etc. It is not horrendous, there are some decent names, but when he beat the past it Eubank we were all hyped. We knew Eubank was past it, but Calzaghe was still very impressive. He has then faced about 4 fighters worth mentioning....

    Woodhall
    Reid
    Mitchell
    Lacy

    I will allow Veit at a push. Brewer was DONE. The rest is simply not acceptable, not for a guy of his ability.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    People can question Joe's resume all they want, but is there any questioning that the guy obviously is a great talent? He has great reflexes, great foot work, great footspeed, great handspeed, he puts his punches together nicely, and can fight on the inside and outside.
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lacy was not going to get better though. He was holding a title and was highly ranked (Behind only Kessler and Calzaghe, and he is fighting Kessler now right?). He fought him in his prime and there was no other time to fight him. Lacy was calling him out, and if I remember correctly, people were saying that Calzaghe was scared of him (he kept getting injured). There can be no doubt of the timing of that fight.
     
  12. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Right, and if he fought a guy like Hopkins or Jones the way he fought Brewer at that time, we would have never heard of Joe Calzhage again.
     
  13. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Can anyone question if he's truly great?? NO.
    As I said in an earlier long winded post, the only reason IMO he gets any crap is for not coming state side.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Losing to Jones or Hopkins wouldn't have ended his career. It may have forced him to fight a higher level of opposition to re-establish himself but he would have been back.

    We all know who Clinton Woods is these days (not super famous or anything, but a solid champion) and he lost to Jones...badly.
     
  15. kg0208

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    Proof? Have we seen him breakdown mentally?
     
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