Why is Calzaghe's opposition considered trash?

He certainly could have fought better fighters, and it is too late most likely for him to step up. Fighting Hopkins now means little.

He would need to fight the young guns.....and probably at 175.

 

Most people is not provable and yes the performance was great. But Whitaker was just as great and in a division fighting guys bigger than him. Regardless, it had nothing to do with what I said, and like I said, you bash Jones when it's convenient to build up Collins and Benn.

 

No one is doubting how good Toney was bud. I am saying he was not rated ahead of the legendary ATG Pernell Whitaker.

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_Pound_For_Pound--1990s

Even after Jones beat Toney he was behind Whitaker.

 

Don't worry about it. It doesn't really matter and I shouldn't have brought it up.

 

Were we talking about your opinion only? If this is your response to proof that one of the more reputable magazines and widely used ratings in the sport had Whitaker still over Toney, then I rest my case. Sarcasm certainly doesn't help yours.

 

If they are biased because they are just human, then its fair to say that the people you refer to, including yourself, are just as biased because you are also human. And therefore none of this really matters at all.

Just keep in mind, Whitaker had no lost since 1988 and had won the 135, 140, 147, and 154 titles between the time that loss and his next one to DLH in 1997. It is not a slight to Toney to be rated behind one of the greatest fighters of all time in 1993-1994. Remember, in 1993, before Jones fought Toney, Whitaker had a draw with the great JCC which most thought he won. That is why he was rated ahead of Toney.

 

He was in a machine the night before keeping him ALIVE?

222 lbs six weeks out? You have a link to these things? I would love to know what commission would have let him fight when he was on life support the night before.

 

Yah, you're not a Jones hater right? It didn't last? Jones wouldn't lose for 10 years after this fight.

Move on dude...as I said, you wreak of Brawler.

 

I don't think so...Jones would always spell trouble for James.

 

1994 to 2004....10 years. Perhaps 9 years and a 6 months. :deal

And 10 years is a long time in boxing. Very long.

And yes, you're a hater....you said Jones was never good in the other thread, and come up with derogatory names for anyone who argues with you. We go by your actions, not your excuses.

 

Calzaghe's opp isn't bad. It's just not good for someone of his stature, or his supposed stature as one of the top fighters in the world. There have been fights that he should have been a part pf that broke down to to him, as well as the opponent. I reckon when he retires, he'll have more questions about him then actual answers.

 

Calzaghe wasn't even a 'real' champ until he beat Lacy.

He's defended that against 2 C-level fighters.

I'm happy he's facing Kessler, but up til this point he's got a joke of a resume for people to consider him p4p material.

 

The Calzaghe fan just needs to STFU when it comes to Roy..there is no comparison in any aspect of the sport. Sorry ..go fish....as the post above shows Roy as I said fought better guys in the 90s

 

This is pretty accurate...of course Jones has the HW win.

I am not a Calzaghe fan BTW TooPretty, my comparison was in view of the way they are judged by others. Not about their competition, skill level, or anything else.

 

Calzaghes fast hands would mean nothing to a prime Roy..that would just mean more counter punch opps...Calzaghe has fast hands..Roy had unrealistic fast everything...He made James Toney look like a turtle and he had ok hand speed for a 168 guy with his quick counters. Prime Roy would tap dance on Calzaghes ass.