Why is Canelo so disrespected?

Say what you will about Canelo but true boxing people can only admire his attitude. I like him even more now he has left Golden Boy Promotions:

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Canelo is not disrespected.

Even those who think his team stacked judges played contractual games, cherry picked opponents, probably covered for his PED use ... still give him respect as a fighter.

He is a great fighter no doubt. Canelo is a true pro and would fight anyone.

But because he's become the face of Mexican boxing for sure and maybe even all of boxing (cash cow) he gets the benefit of some questionable things and that's is what I think some boxing fans have issues with.

 

I didn't hear much on this forum about how Yirdirim was robbed in his last fight when discussing his worthiness to fight Canelo. All I've heard was "why is Yirdirim ranked so high", "why he is Canelo's mandatory, he's coming off a loss" "Canelo should be fighting better competitiion", etc.

Well if what you're saying is true that Yirdirim really deserved to beat Dirrell but was robbed, then he surely is deserving of the top contender spot and worthy of fighting Canelo. Lets say got the decision vs Dirrell as you claim he clearly should. Then he only has 1 real loss, which was to Chirs Eubank Jr.

If you lose a controversial split decision in which fans like you believe he really won, where 1 judge had him winning wide, then it would be another level of corruption for that result to affect his ranking or his worthiness to fight the best. So then why are people complaining that Canelo his fighting Yirdirim? If Yirdirim did more than enough to beat Dirrell in your mind, that's a quality performance and should have been seen as a quality win for Yirdirim. Dirrell's only 2 losses are to Badou Jack and to David Benavidez, so if Yirdirim should have gotten the decision vs Dirrell, than that puts Yirdirim in that kind of company as the only other guy to truly beat Dirrell.

What this also says is that A-side fighters getting decisions they don't deserve is just an A-side thing, happens in PBC, and could happen to any fighter in any promotion. Frankly this decision between Dirrell and Yirdirim sounds like it's much more corrupt than anything that's involved Canelo in his career. Say what you want CJ Ross in Canelo vs Mayweather or Byrd in Canelo vs GGG 1, but those outlier cards didn't determine the result. In Dirrell's case vs Yirdirim, he had not 1 but 2 "corrupt" judges in his pocket, and 2 corrupt judges were enough to give him a win that in your mind he didn't deserve. That's much worse and more corrupt than anything Canelo's been gifted by judges.

So before we start saying that there's inherent judging corruption every time Canelo fights, lets not forget that according to you, Yirdirim had a victory over Dirrell robbed from him in his very last fight before he ever fought Canelo. That it isn't something about Canelo that causes judging to be seen as corrupt, if anything it's just par for the course for judges to give close rounds to A-side fighters in general. And frankly, if Yirdirim performed that well against Dirrell, enough to win by several rounds clearly in your mind, then Canelo may have a war on his hands on Saturday.

 

Shadow everybody knows Yildirim is gonna get devastated. Stop trying to build this guy up as anything above average.

 

According to m.s. he's coming off a clear win over Anthony Dirrell, was robbed in that match, and is riding a 6 fight winning streak with only 1 true loss his entire career.

If "robbery" losses shouldn't be acknowledged by fans, like GGG's "losses" to Canelo, then why act like this guy is a bum because he "lost" his last fight, a fight that according to m.s. he won clearly but was robbed. This guy is a legit Super Middleweight challenger, one of the best in the division. You and others continue to act like this is an easy fight for Canelo. I disagree, and I reckon be provides a much greater challenge to Canelo than Smith did, who was a World Champ at SMW. I'm tired of you and others who continue to trash anyone Canelo fights, as a means to discredit Canelo if he should be victorious.

 

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I don't see Canelo or Yildirim in that.

 

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So I guess this means Pacquiao's a bum since he was stopped twice before becoming great.

 

Yildirim is gonna get pasted so badly by Canelo it's going to be embarrassing. Ginger was at home whacking one off every time he saw Yildirim get pasted by an uppercut; he probably can't wait to get hold of him.

 

Yildirim is never going to become great. The only thing he's good at is sucking up punches and slugging back. I'll say he's tough and strong, I'll give him that much. But his big looping punches, lack of defence, lack of footwork, lack of a jab ... those factors mean he's going to have a career of beatings or of beating up C-level guys in a dead division like 168. Comparing him to Pacquiao is laughable.

 

Yildirim had a bad night vs Eubank. Eubank is a big puncher, he got caught and stopped. It can happen to anyone, even greats like Pacquiao have been stopped, and went on to become extraordinary. If being stopped once in your career by a name opponent means you're a bum and an easy fight then a lot of greats have been bums.

Hearns was stopped by SRL, Hagler and Barkley. Hearns is a legend.

 

No he didn't "have a bad night". He's easy to hit and susceptible to getting counterpunched. Dirrell hit him with some hellacious combos the same as Eubank. Every time this guy steps up he's gonna get a beating.

 

Look I have no idea what's gonna happen on Saturday. This is boxing. Maybe Canelo sparks him out in the early rounds, maybe he doesn't. We don't know, all I'm saying is m.s. is saying he deserved the win vs Dirrell, if so that's a quality win, quite different than the narrative of "he's coming off a loss", "why is he ranked so high", "Canelo should be fighting better compeitition" etc.

I don't know what to expect from Yildirim. But he's obviously above average. Is he elite, I guess we'll find out, but if he can hold his own against Dirrell, it suggests he's a good fighter and not an easy fight for Canelo.

 

I do. Yildirim gets put to sleep before the end of the fourth.

LOL there's doubt?

I disagree, I think Dirrell was busier, landed more punches and landed the better punches even though Yavni hung tough. Canelo should be fighting Benavidez who really did beat Dirrell.

Steve Rolls and Dominic Wade were "above average". So I guess strictly speaking you have a point.

No.