Why is Chris John not considered p4p top 10?

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  1. Trendkiller

    Trendkiller 420 Full Member

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    A draw with Rocky Juarez doesn't say too much, but the guy beat JMM, who is widely considered p4p top 3.

    Surely he should be given more credit than he is at the moment.
     
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  2. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he never leaves indonesia.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He was just held to a draw with a guy who is nothing like pound for pound top 10.

    Why the calls for top 10 status now? It's about more than getting on television as far as I am concerned. To me he is indeed top 20, and has been since Marquez, although that fight is viewed with suspicion.

    I thought he was brilliant last time out against Enoki.
     
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  4. papptheking

    papptheking Active Member Full Member

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    well he gets robbed when he does!!
     
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  5. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Other than Marquez and Juarez he has fought basically no one, he was robbed against Juarez, but that Marquez decision was served up on a silver platter for him.
     
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  6. TomaTos

    TomaTos Active Member Full Member

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    WRONG !

    He beat Juarez just like Martinez beat Cintron, very easy decision that goes wrong because of corruption.

    And wtf about not leaving Indonesia ? How many US fighter ever leave USA...
     
    TomaTos, Mar 2, 2009
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  7. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree with you there.
     
    huggerfree, Mar 2, 2009
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  8. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Sounds like another case of Americans not giving credit to a fighter because he's not American & they have little knowledge of him or the opponents he's faced. Look what happened as soon as he fought there, he beat Rocky Juarez and he gets another stain on his record for the effort.
     
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  9. SteelTownCobra

    SteelTownCobra Guest

    Because he's number 11?
     
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  10. Brady

    Brady Active Member Full Member

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    John won the fight with Juarez but he was not overly impressive. The man who beat Diaz Saturday night would utterly destroy Chris John at any weight.
     
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  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    his last two fights have been in his opponent's back yard. I've often had John in my p4p top10 since 2007
     
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  12. Sean101

    Sean101 Active Member Full Member

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    P4P lists are just peoples opinion.
     
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  13. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i mean the majority of his career thus not getting enough recognition in the mainstream boxing media.
     
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  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    People don't like anything but HBO's graphics.
     
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  15. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wasnt JMM vs John a complete home town decision as well? close fight but the score cards were all pretty clear in favour of john i think in the aftermath of the fight people took it with a pinch of salt. plus he doesnt fight in the US so he has no profile amongst a lot of fight fans in the west
     
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