Why is Cotto beating Martinez so unimaginable??

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Tito fought a Mayorga much closer to his prime. Still anything can happen in boxing. Cotto despite not being a natural 154lber seems to hold his own. Hes a strong guy, but it would be nice if he sat on his punches more. He'd have to outwork or outsmart Sergio without getting knocked out in order to win. Only someone of Floyd or maybe Mannys caliber might pull that off, but not Cotto.

 

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Cotto has better fundamentals than anyone Martinez has fought, has a much improved right hand post-surgery, and Martinez has looked good when met with aggression but limited when forced to lead.

It's a competitive fight, to anyone that's not a hater.

 

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Martinez was forced to lead against Kermit Cintron and Barker, 2 guys far bigger then Cotto, and KO'd both of them.

Dzinzuruk was touted as having one of the best jabs in the business and Martinez eviscerated him.

Cotto is not fundamentally exceptional in the slightest. He barely beat Mosley, got a gift vs Clottey and got beat down by Pac and Margarito. None of these guys are known as fundamentally skilled fighters.

And Cotto by definition is going to have a poor right hand. He is a converted south paw. And there is no way of knowing if his right hand has improved considering he has fought nothing but stiffs since coming back from the Pac loss.

Martinez is just as fast as Pacquiao, with more power.

Martinez would destroy Cotto. If Arum thought his guy had a chance he would have made the fight a long time ago.

Martinez is knocking out 6'1 170lb middleweights. A little 5'6 154lb soaking wet former junior welterweight would be no problem.

 

Cotto knocked out Ricardo Torres with a right hand before his injury hampered it that bent his whole body backwards; it's possible to have a good straight right and still be a converted southpaw, just as it's possible to have a strong left hook as an orthodox fighter; just look at DLH under Mayweather Sr., especially against Campas.

Cotto has better fundamentals than anybody Martinez fought, including the likes of Barker and Cintron, and skills matter more than size in this respect; that fact remains. Whether you like it or not, Cotto is elite, and his balance, guard, movement, accuracy, jab, punch variety, and control of distance are all aspects of boxing that he is far above average at. Stop being a hater, and start watching boxing outside of Floyd so you can understand the nuances of the game.

 

Cotto knocked out Ricardo Torres on an accumulation of punishment in a fight that was a war. A small man that Cotto barely beat by the skin of his teeth. More proof he'd have success against Martinez. :roll:

Cotto's right hand is virtually non-existent. Manny Steward said as much himself. We have no proof that he could throw it consistently with any hope of success, especially not giving the fighters he's been fighting. What we know is that Cotto bases his whole attack on his jab and left hook. And against a southpaw thats going to set him at an automatic disadvantage.


And no Cotto's right hand is no where close to Oscar's.

Cotto's skills are not elite, and no where close to where they'd need to be to make up the gap in speed and power.

Barker is much better defensively then Cotto. Cotto in comparison is a defense seive.

And I doubt that Cotto's jab is better then Dzinziruk who was able to win Silver at the amateur World Championships.


Is Cotto an all-around better fighter? Maybe. Does it make up for the gap in physical skill and size? Not in the slightest.

Martinez, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins, Ward, Donaire, Marquez, are elite.

Cotto is a level below that. Cotto when matched against B level fighters struggles. He got a gift vs Clottey, went 1-1 against Margarito and barely shaded Mosley.


Elite fighters blow out B level competition. Cotto is not elite. Maybe B+ at his best.

His guard is atrocious. Uppercuts routinely find there way to his dome. His defense is average at best. When trapped on the ropes you cant miss him. His punch variety is also average. Outside of the jab and the left hook his right is virtually non existent. his control of distance also leaves alot to be desired. He was getting timed by Pacquiao's left hand if thats indication. When Pacquiao is timing you when you are throwing your best punch you have problems.

The only area's where Cotto is expectional at is his Jab and.....His jab. Everything else is average to slightly above average at best. His defense borders below that.

says the guy who said Ward was favored in the Super Six. :rofl

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Cotto beating Martinez is hard to see because of the size difference. If they were the same size Martinez would probably still be the favorite, but Cotto would stand a good chance if he'd be able to avoid Martinez rangy attack and connect with his short punches. But because Martinez is so much bigger (and good on top of the size advantage), Cotto could be doing respectfully well and then just get caught and stopped by Martinez almost at any time.

 

MW, it's ok to hate on Cotto many people do, but when you say he's not elite you're showing you "hater" colors out. Look up the definition of elite before pointing fingers at who is and who isn't elite. Miguel Cotto doesn't have to be the best to be elite, he just needs to be considered on the same level to compete with them, and that he has done. He was considered for a moment the man at weltwerweight when Mayweather retired (even though they should have just fought each other), he went tooth and nail with Clottey (which at the time was considered elite and should have been a champion unifying titles at the hottest division in boxing), he was the best challenge for Manny Pacquiao (aside from Mayweather) at the time they fought, he's the champion at 154lbs (even though he's too small for that weightclass), and is currently an option as an opponent for both Manny and Floyd (the #1 and #2 p4p fighters in the sport today) both of whom are expected to face elite competition because that's what they are.

 

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man, if slow arse margarito can hit cotto, martinez will knock him out silly