Why is Cotto/Canelo Considered a Big Test for Golovkin?

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto and Alvarez, aren't these the two guys who Mayweather beat already? Wasn't it argued on this board that Cotto was washed up, past prime, a shell of his former self when Floyd beat him?

    Wasn't Alvarez called Green, slow, predictable, flat-footed, can't box, etc...when he fought and loss to Floyd?

    But today, October 3, 2015, Canelo/Cotto fighting each other is called a superfight and the winner facing Triple G is to decide the real middleweight champion and likely top P4P fighter post Mayweather! So whats going on, did they all of a sudden get good again after Floyd?

    Before they fought Floyd they were the Sh-t, after they fight Floyd they are the Sh-t but when they fight Floyd they aint sh-t!! Whats going on with perception and logic of today's boxing fans? They aren't considered worthy when they fight Floyd but they are called amazing when they fight anybody else!
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    because ggg has fought only bums. it is a big test for him.
     
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  3. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd outpointed them whereas GGG will mostly likely stop them both in brutal fashion if they ever fight. Moreover GGG will not need IV's and he will have a perfectly healthy T/E ratio while doing that.
     
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  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know what.......................agreed! :deal
     
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  5. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Noone is saying Cotto is a big test...in fact most agree that GGG KO's him.
    But GGG-Canelo at 160 is a very good fight.
     
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  6. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Triple G undergoes Random drug testing USADA or VADA let me know
     
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  7. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Google Golovkin, Lemieux To Go Through VADA PED Testing
     
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  8. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    These are middleweight versions of both fighters. Canelo is better now than he was back when he faced Floyd at 21. Golovkin will be facing superior/ larger fighters than what Floyd fought. Golovkin beats them via KO.
     
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  9. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you talking about the Canelo who was drained and had to turn himself into a skeleton for the catchweight to fight Floyd?
     
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  10. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So to you size means everything, skill, talent, smarts has nothing to do with it?
     
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  11. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    By your rating of fighters, Ward has only fought bums. Let's take a look:

    Froch (who according to you is a bum), because he only won by robbery v Dirrell and went life and death with Groves in the first fight (who according to you is a bum).

    Kessler who lost in his prime to 'Zaggers (who according to you is a bum),and went 1 for 1 with Froch (who according to you is a bum).

    Drained Dawson, who lost to Pascal, who lost to Froch (who according to you is a bum). He also lost to Karpency, who lost to Cleverly (who according to you is a bum)

    Abraham, who got schooled by Froch (who according to you is a bum)

    Bika, who lost to 'Zaggers (who according to you is a bum)

    Smith who was KO'd in 2 by Groves (who according to you is a bum)


    Ward has only fought bums according you :rofl:rofl
     
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  12. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    It's simple really. Just look at Bummyluvkin's resume. Anybody with a pulse would be a huge step up for him.
     
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  13. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo was about 166 lbs when he entered the ring against Mayweather, how is that drained?

    Weigh-in 153 vs Trout = Healthy Alvarez

    A few months later...

    Weigh-in 152 vs Mayweather = Drained Skeleton
     
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  14. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What would USADA prove exactly that you can pay off failed tests or take illegal iv's because they will do their best to cover up.
     
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  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    :yep Canelo lost muscle mass to make the weight, the weight he came at during the fight was water weight, not muscle weight, BIG DIFFERENCE.
     
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