Why is David Haye being a twat ?

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  1. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    He knows he is gonna beat him, cant wait.
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Haye is very insecure. When he gets hit he will get hurt, they run like a rabbit, he will still get knocked out. Haye is training on track & field for running.................
     
  3. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Wlad is going down on July 2nd
     
  4. White Tiger

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    Well he is more experienced than he was when he was about to challenge Wlad in 2009.

    Since then he has fought

    Valuev
    Ruiz
    Harrison

    Valuev and Ruiz would have given him vital experience of fighting rugged operators who have been around world level for a while.

    He beat them both - so he has got some potential.

    The Harrison fight was a complete waste of time - and would not of benefited Hayes experience at all really - it only benefited his bank account.

    So yes - Haye has 3 main obstacles to overcome to win this fight.

    1.) - The smaller man - does he have the physcial tools to win this fight - will his chin and stamnia hold up - or will he just find Wlad naturally too big and strong and powerful ?

    2.) Inexperience - only a handful of fights at heavyweight - and Wlad is a significant step up from Valuev and Ruiz.

    3.) Inactivity - this is going to count against Haye now - he fought Ruiz in April 2010 - thats going to be over a year since his last proper fight - disregarding the Harrison farce - and now he is stepping into a mega fight like this.

    Haye is a rightful underdog in this fight.
     
  5. White Tiger

    White Tiger Boxing Addict banned

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    The fight reminds me somewhat of

    Hamed V Barrera.

    You got Haye - a loud mouth Brit - exciting - big knockout puncher - going into his acid test career defining fight.

    You got Wlad - the foreigner - more basic straight forward fighter - but with better solid fundamentals - more experience - more on his C.V - the tools to get the job done - and just all around more solid operator.

    And Wlad will probaly control the fight and win the fight fair and square - and Haye will probaly fade out of boxing after that.
     
  6. Valane

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    Wow what a ****ing sheep you are.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    True.
    Plus the fact that financially it would be stupid to risk losing to a Chambers or a Povetkin or an Adamek or Solis for far less ££££ than get KO'd by Wlad for the mega-millions he is guaranteed !

    He's simply not ready. He's simply not good enough.
    I admire the Brit loyalty that makes so many here delude themselves, but realistically Haye is NOT the man to beat Klitschko.
    People are thinking with their hearts and flags, not with their heads.
    Just like Bruno against Tyson, or Hatton against Mayweather.
    It will alll become clear on July 2nd.
     
  8. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Some similarities with your man Jack Dempsey, eh? Beat a freakshow, then fights has beens and names until finally fighting the best out there. But Jack Dempsey is awesome because he's in black and white.
     
  9. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I thought he would never fight a Klitschko you massive, horrible spastic?
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    He still hasn't yet.....

    :hey
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    Yes, I'm still trying to work out with was the more thrilling, dominating performance : Haye's epic destruction of Valuev ........ or Dempsey against Willard ? :think

    :lol:

    ........ actually, I remember now, it's Haye, because he used a hybrid style of "Pernell Whitaker and Jack Dempsey" for the Valuev fight, as Adam Booth kindly explained.

    :rofl
     
  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To hype the fight. Unlikely to be a competetive or entertaining fight so tou have to build it up somehow
     
  13. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whip up hype and try to unsettle Wlad. Plus he loves the sound of his own voice anyway!

    He just seems to be doing the whole Ali-Liston approach, probably because he knows there's no damn way he can try to win a boxing match against Wlad. So, even if trying to get the big guy trying to take your head off is a massive risk, it's still a better option than trying to jab away. I wouldn't be surprised if he even does the whole 'hollaring like a madman' thing at the weigh-in.

    I don't know how Wlad's taking it. Sometimes he seems full well to realise that Haye is needling him intentionally, other times he seems very over-emotive and suckered into it. Guess he's trying to play his cards close to his chest too, and is either putting on little emotive shows to pretend otherwise, or it occasionally cracks and he's not used to someone giving him so much lip.

    I certainly can't think of a single Klitschko opponent that trash-talked him to this level. Some of it annoys me a bit, Wlad deserves respect, but I know why Haye's doing it.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    I think Haye is doing it for ALL the reasons in my poll, plus he's a bit immature. Also, he's trying to conquer his own fear. He knows he really has to up his game, so he's positively re-inforcing his own self-image and he's putting pressure on himself to perform. Also, he knows it all equals MORE MONEY.

    Wlad's unlikely to get riled and fight wild. Very very unlikely. Even if he really hates Haye, he's far too cold a professional to let it influence him when they get to the point of the fight.

    Like he said, "Boxing isn't Russian roulette, it's a game of Chess".
    Wlad might have some moral and personal misgivings about Haye outside the ring, but when the bell rings Haye is just a target in front of him. Wlad is a boring, cold, calculating, effective fighter. Since when have emotions have effected his game ?
     
  15. Evil Rick

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    I'd say it was all of the poll options as well, primarily to sell the fight I believe, secondly to shake Wlad up. I don't think he has any "fear" to get over, whether misguided or not I think he genuinely believes he will knock him out. Nobody really knows but Haye however will find out come July 2nd!