Why is Dempsey vs Firpo highly edited film?

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But this is the perfect specimen of a heavyweight right? Because he's from the 90s right?

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Doesn't look so bad even with lack of flattering light and terrible camera quality in black and white.

 

What are "Dempsey fan boys" going to argue against? That Dempsey wasn't knocked out of the ring?

 

Both Sam Langford possibly the greatest p4p fighter ever AND Ray Arcel possibly boxings greatest trainer stated that Dempsey was the greatest hwt ever to live. Thus believing Dempsey was a ATG hwt champion with incredible ATG skills jives perfectly with expert opinion.

 

I don't see the big deal. Dempsey was an aggressive fighter he rushed across the ring got clipped for barely a flash knockdown and then later was stunned and basically pushed out the ring. In return in 2 rounds he put Firpo down like 11 times. I don't think it's a bad performance at all. Looks better than the waltz going on in the Wills film

 

It's the pre-arranged conspiracy with cameramen in on the plot that is rather hard to digest!lol

 

Some might equate getting knocked out of the ring and needing help to get back in as equal to or even worse than those brief knockdowns. In fact, some consider it a loss.

BTW
When your gloves touch the canvass after getting hit it is considered a legit knockdown and the eight count is given today. Then there is the knee knockdown.

I count seven knockdowns against Firpo in this commentary.

Three for Dempsey

1. The taking a knee
2. The gloves touching canvass after a punch [as observed in the film]
3. The flying thorough the ropes.

 

Well the film doesn't show Dempsey receiving help to get back in the ring. He doesn't appear to be badly hurt either. The film shows what appears to me as a push through ropes more than a solid punch. Maskaev Rahman this is not.

Btw I never argued that Dempsey wasn't legit knocked down - I said it was a flash knockdown when he ran across the ring- which it was. Like Floyd vs Judah or Oscar vs Whitaker.

Dempsey basically destroys Firpo in a wild fight. It's a classic fight but I think Sharkey hurt Jack more and as we all know Jack had an iron chin and was able to weather storms and win.

 

Well we'll never know how much help he received and whether or not it was incidental help like reactionary or self preservation by the press row or rather deliberate to aid in a timely return. I wonder if the ref would of even enforced the rule especially if the help was incidental. Ali taking smelling salts in the Cooper fight seems to be a greater infraction to me and nothing was done retroactively in that bout for rule breaking.
It all makes for interesting debate on here but I think the right man and the better man that night won the fight.

 

Firpo was knocked down 7 times in the first round, half punched/thrown down in the second and knocked down again for the last time. Dempsey was down 3 times counting the out of the ring incident and the fleeting flash kd at the beginning of the fight.
The blow that puts Dempsey out of the ring appears more of a push than a punch.

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That's got to be one of the cheapest attempts at discrediting Dempsey's performance I have ever seen.

Dempsey was clearly off balance.

 

Dempsey could have been abducted by Aliens when he went out of the ring and a doppelganger substituted for him on his return,its possible and as probable as your theories!" Rain Man And The Grassy Knoll"!

 

It wasn't called a kockdown but, WTF if it makes Big Ears happy!

 

He was back in the ring at 3 and on his feet at 4!

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