Why is Deontay Wilder not embraced in America like Ali or Tyson was?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because he's dog **** and entertainment wise has nothing on the excitement Tyson and Ali could both generate.

    What has Wilder done, really, in his entire career? Pole axe a chinny Polish guy, drop 5 rounds in a row to a old never was football wash out, draw with the warmed up corpse of a never was... I mean, **** man.
     
  2. MarcelCerdan13

    MarcelCerdan13 Member Full Member

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    Boxing has been more of niche sport in the US for nearly 30 years. Wilder certainly has marketable value, but it’s nowhere near the level of Tyson’s or Ali’s, which is probably what it would wake for it to be thrust back into the mainstream.
     
  3. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder isn't charismatic or interesting as a person. He seems dull-witted and his boxing looks wild. For all of Floyd's faults, he was smart and skilled enough to put on an enjoyable show BEFORE the fight even took place. Ali may not have been liked by a lot of fans, but he was interesting to listen to and enjoyable to watch.

    Not all fighters have what it takes to be a superstar. Wilder is one of those that simply doesn't have what it takes.
     
  4. Wasteman

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    I find both of them somewhat unlikable in terms of their personalities but the difference is that when Ali proclaimed he was the greatest he would actually back up his claims by frequently fighting and beating the greatest boxers of his era whilst putting on some of the most thrilling and entertaing performances of all time in the process. Wilder, on the hand, also likes to toot his own horn but that's where the similarities end because, unlike Ali, Wilder doesn't seem to have any interest in stepping in the ring with the best heavyweights of his own era and beating them.
     
  5. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has very dark energy and most people can pick it up even through a tv screen.
     
  6. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This, I was gonna post but this is about as concise an explanation as anyone can provide.
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I'm not white nor American Mexico loves Ali
     
  8. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How’s that even a question?
     
  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because the older fans aren't as dumb as the young ones who support him. While boxing is a younger crowd then previous eras, theres many VERY knowledgeable fans still around that go for the guy with actual skills and who he fights not where hes from so Wilder making a dent on public perception is always an up hill battle.

    The ACTUAL boxing fan all around knows a fake when they see one and wilder is a fake bc he has refused to try and unify belts from day one even if its HIS team pulling the strings he's the fighter.

    If you support Wilder all around you have to like ducking, lying, ignorance...these are all wilder wrapped into one. Even if you are not in the states word gets around as boxing Is a global sport its not a country vs country and bc of this Wilder is screwed bc he is exposed in so many ways he's literally the biggest joke in HW history right now ,that in event he loses to Breazeale im going to make an epic wilder thread to prove just that ,not that its hard to do.
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The thread isn't about why isn't Wilder as popular in Mexico as Ali was.
     
  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    well i wasn't around then and I've never heard anyone talk bad about ali
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has fought two of the four current best heavyweights (other than himself), and he flattened them a combined five times.
     
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  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Boxing isn't promoted or accessible like it once was.
     
  14. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shpilka and Stevern? Lol
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm an older fan. I followed Ali when he was the champ in the 1970s thru today with Wilder, Joshua, Fury, etc.

    Deontay Wilder is a fine champion. He's arguably the most exciting fighter around today. And eight successful WBC Heavyweight title defenses ... and about to make nine ... is no joke.

    Anyone who was around back then knows how vilified Ali and Tyson were for much of their professional careers. Their villainy added to their fame.

    They also both softened GREATLY as they got older. People talk about how much Foreman changed. Ali and Tyson may have changed even more. Now, Mike Tyson cries just about every time you see him talk about old timers.

    10 years into Ali and Tyson's pro careers, they were banished from boxing and either in prison (Tyson) or fighting all the way to the US Supreme Court to try to get out of going to prison.

    Meanwhile, 10 years in, Wilder, on the other hand, is doing just fine. Rich, undefeated and famous. His career is still on the rise.
     
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