Why is deontay wilder so powerful despite punching so wide incorrect

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  1. Wagoat

    Wagoat Member Full Member

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    how is hè able to generate so much power because of his frame? Seen alot of tall fighters swing wild but they don’t generate power like wilder so how does hè do it? Hè doesn’t punch fundamental hè punches very unorthodox but maybe thats the reason hè hits so hard because hè swing it hard that way or Some sort or is it his speed ? Hè also squeezes his hand extremly hard before impact and braces his whole body very hard before impact you can see him tensing up before impact.

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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    :facepalm:


    He is facing pathetic opposition, I mean Jesus Christ people, the man is protected, it should be obvious by now. :deal:

    A prime Chris Arreola would have done a number on Wilders opponents including Wilder himself.

    Listen I like Wilder, I am one of his supporters, but you have to be real.
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    his wide punches dont really do much damage other than keeping a hurt man hurt, its his straight punches that hurt his opponents. at least thats what ive noticed.
     
  4. Wagoat

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    Yes thats true but even his straight punches hè throw from low from the hips with a slight curve very unorthodox but very effective maybe one of the hardest right hands in history
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Spot on. The punches he lands at the beginning of a stoppage are usually pretty good technically.... the windmills that follow are him simply wanting to overwhelm the opponent so he goes down and stays down or to give the ref a reason to step in. The stoppage of Harrison is probably the definitive example of this approach. There's method to his madness....
     
  6. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Ask a physicist - seriously.

    It’s been a while since I took physics, but it’s to do with the transferring of energy, and holding that energy within his fist to be transferred.

    Firstly, he’s strong, so his punches will have a greater force (weight) than that of the surface he’s punching. Secondly, as mentioned; technique, allowing maximum energy to be transferred effectively, without losing any.

    And thirdly; speed. This is very important for Wilder. With the force and energy he transfers, if he doesn’t hit his target fast enough, then his target will naturally adjust to absorb the energy more evenly. Think of it as jumping from a wall; on landing, you bend your legs, and go into a roll, therefore absorbing the same energy, but spreading it through your body, which eases the impact. Now, try that same just, but keep your legs straight! Bones will be broken. Why because the energy becomes concentrated, because your body has not adjusted.

    So, with speed, his opponent is effectively keeping his legs straight in the example above.

    Sorry for the lame science(ish) lesson.
     
  7. KingFury64

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    He may step up in the future, i mean he`s only had 40 fights, he doesn`t want to be rushed.
     
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  8. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    He's fighting Him next? Deontay better watch out for his cross...
     
  9. White Trunks Black Trim

    White Trunks Black Trim Member banned Full Member

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    Let's not forget the leverage and torque someone of his build can generate when throwing a punch. Boxing history is full of tall, lanky, rangy guys who can flat out pop. The Hearns effect, if you want to call it something. Although obviously Hearns had better technique. Perhaps the Kermit Washington effect is a better description.

    He's not fat, he's not muscle bound. He might also have freakishly dense knuckle bones. I would think that'd he'd break his hands all the time punching like that but he doesn't. He's a basketball player, and these guys have amazing abilities. Factor all that with his god given fast twitch muscle fibers and athleticism, and there you are.
     
  10. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many fights 60 or 80 then he'd be ready lol.
     
  11. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Well written and appreciated; You inadvertently made a good coda gag there too. 'broken leg bones' and "'lame' science lesson". I'm just being a Max Planck and good post and point fella'
     
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  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The fact so many of his opponents are able to get back up, and are willing to trade, tell me that he doesn't hit as hard as he would like you to believe.

    Eric Molina was willing to trade ffs.
    The same man who get in with Joshua and tried hiding in the corner.
     
  13. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One word - speed.

    Have a look at the punches he was throwing at Audley Harrison when he was down in the corner. The ones that missed give a good indication of the velocity of them, in particular the uppercuts. They were as fast as what middleweights throw.

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  14. Jackomano

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    I disagree that Wilder punches with incorrect technique. He can get wild sometimes, but for the most part has the best straight right hand and cross in the heavyweight division at the moment.

    Wilder always turns his back foot and has the back shoulder replace his front shoulder, which transfers his weight into his punch.

    Wilder and Szpilka
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    Szpilka keeps trying to get in range, but when he does he waits too long and eats straight rights. These won't knock you out, but gradually take steam out of you. Watch Wilder's back foot and shoulders and how it's all one motion. Wilder than finished Szpilka with the right cross. Wilder has his feet in position and turned whole body when he threw the cross. This transferred Wilder's weight straight to Szpilka's chin.

    Szpilka also screwed up badly. You never throw a left hook without keeping your right hand up to protect your chin.

    Wilder vs. Ortiz
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    At 1:38 Ortiz stays in range of Wilder too long without attacking and notices Wilder's feet are in perfect position to deliver a straight right. Ortiz at the last minute gets his guard up and bends down a little, which results in Wilder barely missing Ortiz's chin, but still connecting on Ortiz's forehead, which is more than enough to wobble Ortiz for Wilder to move in and get the knockdown.

    At 3:25 Ortiz makes his final mistake.
    Ortiz backs Wilder into the corner. Notice Wilder feet are pefert position to fire the right cross. Wilder baited Ortiz and Ortiz took the bait and Wilder punched right over Ortiz's straight left and wobbled Ortiz again.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jesus should be the one watching out for Wilder's cross. I know Jesus is open for the cross, last time he got nailed by one it didn't go to well for him.
     
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