why is earnie shavers considered the hardest puncher of all time,who did he destroy?

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  1. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    were all the punches they took, before being stopped, soft punches then??

    Id say they felt the power of many punches before they got caught with the final one that felled the tree:hey

    Shavers was a hard puncher. He wasn't a really solid boxer, and wasn't too good landing his punches. When they did land,whether it be on the arms or the chin,people felt them, and said he had the hardest punch. :deal:rasta:hat:thumbsup
     
  2. jonbonez152

    jonbonez152 EASTSIDEBOXING KING Full Member

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    This does not take into account that he did not land as many punches as the other guy, less on the button, and his shots where more spread out throughout the fight. This does not prove anything.
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    What an idiotic post Please go back to tballet class:patsch
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Shavers was the first to stop Joe Bunger who had went the distance wit Ron Lye and Joe Fraizer. Shavers dropped him in the first round and finished him in the second
     
  5. Vinegar Hill

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    Bert Cooper never fought Ali.
     
  6. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Shavers KOed Jimmy Young.

    Foreman hit Young flush, but couldn't stop him, and Foreman lost the fight.

    Shavers Koed Norton in one round. It took Foreman 2 rounds.

    That argument is just as valid as the other idiotic comparisons people are making here.

    The main fact is that Shavers wanted to fight Foreman and Frazier, but they both ducked him.
     
  7. Mr "T"

    Mr "T" Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BS Frazier felt sorry for him because of his hard times
    Frazier easily KO'd two fighters that previously KO'd Shavers:
    Quarry and the mighty Ron Stander
     
  8. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    dunno why anyones doubting the opinions of those Earnie actually hit over basement living pot noodle eating keyboard warriors. Who else are you gonna ask? Ghostbusters?
     
  10. Madmanc

    Madmanc Guest

    he had decent pop,but he was probably about on a par withthe like of chris arreola or someone of that nature today
     
  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wait, what?

    I agree with the rest of your post-Shavers was indeed a heck of a puncher (just not hardest ever), but unlike the old guy from Robocop, I won't buy that for a dollar.
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    The labl l"glass jaw" is being used to discredit Shavers as a puncher in this case. As if anyone with a modest punch would take him out early. That was not the case. Only Foreman, Cooney, and Shavers, three of the hardest punchers of their time, finished him early. So rather you consider him the hardest or not, Shavers is in Foreman and Cooney's company in that regard.

    Norton actually showed good durability against Holmes and Ali, both men have solid power and stopped some tough guys but Norton walked through everything they had without backing up. Norton's only other stoppage loss was a sustained 8 round beating against Garcia in which he was floored multiple times.

    Norton wasn't iron jawed but safe to say, you had to you had to pack an elite punch to demolish him. Even that isn't gurantee. Bobick was a great puncher as well and Norton fearlessly tore him up.
     
  13. Rock0052

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    FWIW, I'd read the Garcia fight should've been stopped very early on but Ken got some breaks to let it get to 8. Haven't seen the fight myself, but it was a pretty big upset at the time since Garcia was essentially a skinny LHW.

    I think Norton's subpar track record against sluggers leads to all of them getting less credit for knocking him out, fair or not, because the general consensus is he's a weak matchup for them.

    Doesn't mean Shavers couldn't punch, though. The reason I think Earnie's power may get a little overrated is because a number of times, men got off the floor to beat him or went through flush shuts to beat him. It's not that he didn't have the skill to land it in the first place (although he could've used some refinement in finishing skills).
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    -Garcia was 6'4" 188 to Norton's 207. They were both HWs. If you want to get technical the KO punch supposedly happened after the bell as well. Garcia could punch, and was the #4 HW in 72 and was in talks to challenge Ali but a car accident derailed his career, and he never regained form.

    -It gets overstated. He lost to Foreman and Shavers whlie in his prime, however he also beat a top rated slugger in Bobick. He also beat a solid slugger in Kirkman, who was something of the Tommy Morrison of his day. And we've seen Holmes and Ali belt him with power shot after power shot, a true glass jaw couldn't stand up to that.

    -The thing with Shavers is punching was all he did well. He didn't take a punch well, he wasn't in great condition, and he was pretty limited in the skill department.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    -Garcia was still barely a heavyweight and spotted Norton nearly 20 lbs. The outcome of that fight was a revelation because he'd been brought in to lose. Garcia had a nice run until his level of competition improved, but nobody expected Norton's chin to be that vulnerable that Garcia would crack it.

    -Blitzing through Bobick in a minute was a good win. It also means we didn't get a chance to see how Ken would've dealt with his power because Bobick didn't get a chance to land anything meaningful. Good win, very good performance, didn't last long enough to show us anything about Ken's chin to counter the reputation.

    -Kirkman's power wasn't close to Morrison's. That's pushing it too far for the sake of the argument.