Why is everyone so impressed with beterbiev, he's just a weight bully

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    “Weight bully” garbage might be the single most idiotic hater argument in boxing. Unless of course, It’s used against fighters like Luis Nery who actually cheated and used illegal substances to fight at a lower weight class.
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Ice skating (speed skating) is great too! Watched the Olympic Qualifiers today :b1:
     
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  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah....that was a bad example :lol:
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I don't think he's a so called weight bully but he's extremely strong for the weight. He could easily fight at CW no problem.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This. Hes an extremely strong fighter for the 175 pound division. He has the strength of a fighter who fights in a higher weight class.

    And hes not even that muscular for the division. Plenty of other LHWs look like they have big muscles. Beterbievs build is different because his tendons and ligaments are so tight he looks like hes busting at the seems.
     
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  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    adonis had fought noone. Everybody has always complained about that. We had only the eye test to judge him. The eye test can fail and Stevenson proved that right. (not to talk he was 41 years old, let me lol at those saying that you can be "in shape" being 41 years old, they are a living joke)

    When your best (and only meaningful) victory is Gvozdyk, your CV is weak. That's a fact. The OP is more right than what a lot of people would like to admit.

    EDIT: And everybody talking about Gvozdyk beating stevenson and losing to beterbiev. Would Gvozdyk have lost to a 41 years old beterbiev?. Lol, I highly doubt that. He's only 36 and in his last fight he looked like aging like no tomorrow, prime Gvozdyk would kill 41 yo beterbiev if he continues aging like that. At least if you guys want to make a comparisson, make it properly.
     
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  7. StussyBrownnn

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    I dont think you are that big of a boxing fan then. The way Beterbiev shuts down his opponents just because of the threat of his heavy punches. He's like a 175lb GGG who has more skill than practically anyone in the world but isnt apparent because he uses em so subtly. Hes great at controlling both levels and distance. Then theres his ability to cut off the ring, I have him comfortably up at top 5 in the world rn at that. He doesnt showoff with fast hands and quick feet, but the skill level is among the best in the world. Unfortunately, there is just no one at 175 that can touch him.
     
  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weight bullying is a thing you complete spastic. I've never claimed Beterbiev is a weight bully as his walk around seems to be 190lb and as Serge pointed out many at LHW have fight night weights around that. 185-190lb seems to be the normal hydration. Browne, Gvodzyk, Johnson are all pretty big LHWs.

    Lopez, Crawford and the like on the other hand are blatant weight bullies.

    I just don't think your childlike mind can comprehend that different fighters have different rehydration capacities, and others weigh significantly more than others come fight night. And they do that for a reason - it's advantageous to them. Why would they actively put themselves at a disadvantage?

    Size can easily negate skill.... Hence why there are weight divisions. Weight bullying is a thing. Fighters use it to beat on smaller fighters and create a name for themselves. Then, if they are not already exposed by a small guy with a big enough skill gap, they get exposed when they fight guys at their own weight class. Pretty obvious stuff, now you've got to be seriously naive not to see through this. Or, like a child, you just can't accept that boxing isn't this magical sport where everything is fair and dandy. Grow up
     
  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Significantly better than any of Crawfords wins
     
  10. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn’t say you claimed he was a weight bully you moron. I’m pointing out that calling him a weight bully is the exact same idiocy as the garbage you spew. It has no base whatsoever, It’s just some mentally ill loser looking for reasons to slam fighters they hate on.

    Indeed, Beterbiev is hardly any bigger than Gvozdyk or Browne. And the same thing goes for Crawford at welterweight. His last opponent was a guy who started his career at SMW and fought at 165lbs as an amateur, the one before that was a guy who was ripped weighing in at 176, his debut opponent at the weight went on to fight at middleweight. Of course, all this is too much to comprehend with someone who’s IQ level can be rivalled by the room temprature.

    Yes, size can easily negate skill. So can cutting too much weight, so can rehydrating too much. Some fighters started looking average when they stopped cutting weight, some started looking better. There are plenty examples of fighters having better power when they move up in weight, having punch resistance. Every fighter look for the weight class that would fit them the best, that’s why, except for those who actually cheat to make weight, calling a fighter weight bully only because they look big is nothing but being a butthurt hater, which is all you are.
     
  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Gvozdyk, a 17 fights fighter whose best victory is a 41 years old shot to pieces Stevenson (who at the same time has actually fought nobody?). Better than any crawford's victory? Really? :facepalm: Man, you better stick at insulting canelo, that's your thing, stop trying to do anything else.

    Still, I remind you that crawford has cleaned up 2 divisions and is in his way to clean up the 3rd one. Not the best divisions ever, still way bigger achievement than what beterbiev will do in 3 lifes.
     
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  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes and I didn't claim you said that you naive low intellect. I'm merely pointing out my stance on Beterbiev given the thread is based on him.
    You're doing all the mental gymnastics in the world to convince yourself Crawford is not a weight bully. He absolutely was at 140lb and below which is the bulk of his resume and hype (beating shot Khan, shot Brook, Horn, part time boxer 34yo Porter (don't forget the dodgy towel being thrown in) at welter is not impressive).

    Crawford is known for walking around 170-180 lbs / Cruiser, and hes a guy who does not look like a fat ******* in between fights.

    Fighters weight bully and choose to weight bully because it is advantageous. End of story. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You're just using every excuse in the book to justify it. Definition of a cuck, almost like you want boxers to con the public you weirdo.
    No, there is not. Lying now, just so you can give your favourite men undue credit for frauding everyone you utter cuck.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No it isn't :lol:
     
  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahaha.. Yes it is.
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your best pal Crawford knows all about beating shot fighters in Khan and Brook.

    Gvodzyk is more skilled than any of Crawfords opponents bar Gamboa (tbh I'd dY Gvodzyk is more skilled) but he was chinny and Crawford looked at least 20 weight divisions bigger.
    Crawford is shite why are you so obsessed with him? Is it bcz he can "SwItcH HiTt deerrh"? He was a massive weight bully at 140lbs and below. You're not getting credit beating up on smaller dudes. At 147 he's still a big guy and so far he's fought Horn, shot chinny Khan, shot glass eye Brook and 34yo part time boxer Porter (who was up on any unbiased scorecard prior to his dad chucking in the towel which was very suspect to say the least ).

    He's just not that good